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Edgar Cayce, Clairvoyant (1877-1945)


Edgar Cayce - The Other Nostradamus


Many thanks to Vince for contributing the first section of this page. The following comes from the Australian "Armageddon: Doomsday in Our Lifetime?" (Chapter 4) by Bob Leaman, originally published in 1986 by Greenhouse Publications. The book is no longer in print.]


Edgar Cayce made his name in the first half of this century in America as a psychic healer; perhaps the greatest that the United States ever produced. During his lifetime he was credited with assisting thousands of people suffering from all manner of ailments. But there was also a lesser known aspect to Cayce's psychic revelations. Occasionally while in a self-induced trance, Cayce would speak of events to come. He predicted the First and Second World War, the independence of India and the 1929 stockmarket crash. He also predicted, fifteen years before the event, the creation of the State of Israel. His most disturbing predictions, however, concern vast geographical upheavals which by the year 1998 will result in the destruction of New York, the disappearance of most of Japan, and a cataclysmic change in Northern Europe.


Cayce was born on 18 March 1877, on a farm near Hopkinsville, Kentucky. He came from an old, conservative family, and as a child developed what became a lifelong interest in the Bible and the Church. His outlook was undoubtedly influenced by the Christian revivalist meetings which were popular at the time in that part of the country. At the age of seven or eight Edgar was sitting in a wooded clearing reading the Bible when he saw what he described as a bright vision of a winged figure clothed in white. The vision asked the child what he wanted in life, and Edgar responded that he wished to help others.


  The next day, so the story goes, Edgar was having difficulty learning his spelling homework. In his mind he heard the voice of his vision telling him to sleep that he might be helped. The boy did as he was told, laying his head on his spelling book. A little later he awoke to find he knew the spelling of every word.


This story is perhaps the more incredible because Edgar Cayce was not a good student. Later in life, he would become renowned for the learned manner in which he spoke while in a trance. But in his conscious, waking state, he appeared to his contemporaries as a quiet, humble, self-effacing man, somewhat unschooled, and deeply religious.


At the age of fifteen, Edgar suffered an accident a school. He was struck on the back of his neck by a baseball. The boy went into a semi-stupor, and while in that state, told his parents to prepare a special poultice and apply it to the nape of his neck, at the base of his brain. To appease their son, his parents did as they were told, and in the morning, the boy was completely recovered. Followers of Cayce say this was his very first health reading.


After completing seventh grade, Cayce left school in Hopkinsville to find work where he could. He worked on a farm, then in a shoestore, and later a bookstore. By the age of twenty-one, he had become the salesman for a wholesale stationery company. At about this time, Cayce contracted a throat problem which developed into aphonia -- a total loss of voice. Doctors he approached were unable to help him, and Cayce began to regard his problem as incurable. He resorted to hypnosis, but this too had no useful effect until it occurred to Cayce to attempt re-entering the kind of hypnotic sleep which had enabled him to learn his schoolbooks when he was a boy. A hypnotist was found who was willing to give Cayce the necessary suggestion. Once in a trance, Cayce reportedly spoke in a clear voice, spelling out precisely what his symptoms were, and what should be done to cure them. Cayce had succeeded in curing himself and, in doing so, had launched himself on a lifelong career as a psychic diagnostician and healer.


It made no difference to Cayce whether his patient was sitting next to him in the same room or a total stranger living hundreds of miles away. His preparations for the health reading were always the same. As he himself described it, he would first loosen his clothing in order to have a perfectly freeflowing circulation. He would then lie on the couch in his office, with his head to the south, and his feet to the north. Placing his hands on his forehead between his eyes, he would wait a few moments until he received what he would call the go signal, a flash of brilliant white light. Cayce would then move his hands to his solar plexus, and fall into a trance. His wife would tell him the name and location of the patient, leaving out any mention of age, sex or physical problem. Cayce might pause a while before repeating the name and address until he had succeeded in 'locating' the patient and describing his or her condition. He would then prescribe medication and any other corrective measures, always ending his reading with the words: "We are through."


His lifelong secretary, Gladys Davis, took down virtually all his readings, and they are recorded and indexed in the Association for Enlightenment and Research, established in Virginia in 1932 to study Cayce's work. In all, he gave 14,879 readings, well over half of them for people concerned about their health. Over a period of forty-three years, he read for more than six thousand people. In 1933, when he had been exercising his powers for thirty-one years, he explained that he still understood very little about what he was doing. "Apparently," he said, "I am one of the few who can lay aside their own personalities sufficiently to allow their souls to make this attunement to a universal source of knowledge -- but I say this without any desire to brag about it. In fact I do not claim to possess anything that other individuals do not inherently possess. Really and truly, I do not believe there is a single individual that does not possess this same ability I have. I am certain that all human beings have much greater powers than they are ever conscious of -- if they would only be willing to pay the price of detachment from self-interest that it takes to develop those abilities."


Those who came into contact with Cayce were continually taken aback by the depth of medical knowledge he displayed during his sleep state. He would frequently recommend the use of drugs which were not generally known, not yet on the market, or which had long since passed out of use. Although he had a conscious knowledge only of the English language, Cayce is also estimated to have spoken in some two dozen foreign tongues while in a trance. The unconscious Cayce believed there was a cure for every health problem, including cancer, in nature, providing that cure could be found in time. He seldom advocated operations, believing that surgery was much overworked. Cayce took a holistic approach to health. He believed that a man was composed of body, mind and spirit, and that all three are one. He talked about consciousness in the cells of the body, each contributing to the total consciousness of the individual. Health, he indicated, would flow from a perfect harmony of body and mind. In accordance with the concept that we are what we eat, think and believe, Cayce would often urge his patients to improve their mental and spiritual outlook in order to regain their health.


His recommended treatments for patients included many forms of drugless healing, such as special baths, oils, heat, light, colonic irrigation, massage, diet and exercise. The knowledge of anatomy displayed by the sleeping Cayce flabbergasted more than one physician. The first to use Cayce in his own work was Doctor Wesley Ketchum of Hopkinsville. Ketchum wrote of Cayce; "His psychological terms and description of the nervous anatomy would do credit to any professor of nervous anatomy. There is no faltering in his speech and all his statements are clear and concise. He handles the most complex jawbreakers with as much ease as any Boston physician, which to me is quite wonderful in view of the fact that while in his normal state he is an illiterate man, especially along the lines of medicine, surgery and pharmacy, of which he knows nothing... in six important cases which had been diagnosed as strictly surgical he stated that no such condition existed, and outlined treatment which was followed with gratifying results in every case."


With Ketchum's persuasion, Cayce set up business in Hopkinsville as a psychic diagnostician, giving readings twice a day. Before long he was receiving sacks of mail every day from people anxious to avail themselves of his services.


Cayce's prophetic powers often emerged during the readings he gave. In the main, his prophecies had little or nothing to do with the original request for a reading. Sometimes they were to do with financial matters, although Cayce's readings stressed repeatedly that they should not be used for personal gain. Indeed Cayce found to his own cost early on in his career that if he did attempt to make money out of the information he received in his trances, he would suffer for it physically with headaches and stomach upsets. But other people were not so affected. Cayce gave advice to businessmen who were worried about the location of their holdings or the stability of their stocks and bonds. On occasion, he pointed to the location of oil wells, and correctly prophesied a real estate boom in the Norfolk-Newport area of the United States. Six months before the 1929 stockmarket crash he warned people to sell everything they owned. Many who had followed Cayce before failed to pay heed to his warning then, and lost all they had.


The sleeping prophet, as Cayce has been nicknamed, predicted the beginning and end of both the First and Second World Wars, and the lifting of the Depression in 1933. In the 1920s, he first warned of coming racial strife in the United States, and in 1939 he predicted the deaths of two presidents in office; "Ye are to have turmoils -- ye are to have strife between capital and labor. Ye are to have a division in thy own land, before ye have the second of the Presidents that next will not live through his office... a mob rule!" President Franklin D. Roosevelt died in office in April 1945. In November 1963, President John F. Kennedy was assassinated in Dallas, Texas, when racial tensions in the United States were at their height. "Unless there is more give and take,"Cayce said, "consideration for those who produce, with better division of the excess profits from labor, there must be greater turmoil in the land."


In October 1935, Cayce spoke of the coming holocaust in Europe. The Austrians and Germans, he said, and later the Japanese, would take sides. "Thus an unseen force, gradually growing, must result in an almost direct opposition to the Nazi, or Aryan theme. This will gradually produce a growth of animosities. And unless there is interference by what many call supernatural forces and influences -- which are active in the affairs of nations and peoples -- the whole world as it were... will be set on fire by militaristic groups and people who are for power expansion."


Two of Cayce's major predictions concerned the futures of China and the Soviet Union, the world's great Communist giants. In 1944, he prophesied that China would one day be "the cradle of Christianity as applied in the lives of men." Through Russia, he said "comes the hope of the world. Not in respect to what is sometimes termed Communism or Bolshevism -- no! But freedom -- freedom! That each man will live for his fellow man. The principle has been born there. It will take years for it to be crystallized; yet out of Russia comes again the hope of the world." Russia, he said, would be guided by friendship with the United States. Its attempt to rule "not only the economic, but the mental and spiritual life" of its people was doomed to failure.


Cayce also predicted the possibility of a third world war. He spoke of strifes arising "near the Davis Straits," and "in Libya, and in Egypt, in Ankara, and in Syria; through the straits around those areas above Australia, in the Indian Ocean and the Persian Gulf." When asked in June 1943 whether it would be feasible to work towards an international currency or a stabilization of international exchange levels when the war had ended, Cayce replied that it would be a long, long time before this would happen. Indeed, he said, "there may be another war over just such conditions."


Cayce believed in reincarnation. Each person, in his view, existed in a self-conscious form before birth and would exist again after death. As well as his health readings, Cayce gave many hundreds of so-called "life" readings, during which he would describe his subject's past lives. A number of those readings referred to past incarnations in the legendary lost land of Atlantis. In all, Cayce referred to Atlantis no fewer than seven hundred times in his readings over a span of twenty years.


He maintained that Atlantis had a civilization which was technologically superior to our own, and that its last surviving islands had disappeared in the area of the Caribbean some ten thousand years ago. His most specifically timed forecast was that Atlantis would rise again in 1968 or 1969. Needless to say, Cayce was wrong on that count. [Note: However, it was in that timeframe that the "Bimini Road" was located in the Atlantic Ocean. Whether this is a "road" or "natural, geologic erosion" is being hotly debated.]


Cayce said the size of Atlantis was equal to "that of Europe, including Asia in Europe." He saw visions of a continent which had gone through three major periods of division; the first two about 15,600 BCE, when the mainland was divided into islands. The three main islands Cayce named Poseida, Og and Aryan. He said the Atlanteans had constructed giant laser-like crystals for power plants, and that these had been responsible for the second destruction of the land. Cayce blamed the final destruction on the disintegration of the Atlantean culture through greed and lust. But before the legendary land disappeared under the waves, Cayce believed there was an exodus of many Atlanteans through Egypt and further afield. Cayce attributed history's Great Flood in part to the sinking of the last huge remnants of Atlantis.


But Cayce's most striking predictions -- particularly in view of many other prophecies relating to the approaching end of the millennium -- concern dramatic changes in the Earth's surface in the period of 1958 to 1998. The cause of these he put down to a tilting in the Earth's rotational axis which he said would begin in 1936.


The first sign of this change in the Earth's core would be the "breaking up of some conditions" in the South Pacific and "sinking or rising" in the Mediterranean or Etna area. Cayce forecast that, by the end of the century, New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco would be destroyed. He said that "the greater portion of Japan must go into the sea" at this time, and that northern Europe would be "changed as in the twinkling of an eye." In 1941, Cayce predicted that lands would appear in the Atlantic and the Pacific in the coming years, and that "the coastline now of many a land will be the bed of the ocean. Even many of the battlefields of (1941) will be ocean, will be the sea, the bays, the lands over which the new order will carry on their trade as with one another."


"Watch New York, Connecticut and the like. Many portions of the east coast will be disturbed, as well as many portions of the west coast, as well as the central portion of the United States. Los Angeles, San Francisco, most of all these will be among those that will be destroyed before New York, or New York City itself, will in the main disappear. This will be another generation though, here; while the southern portions of Carolina, Georgia, these will disappear. This will be much sooner. The waters of the Great Lakes will empty into the Gulf of Mexico."


Cayce prophesied that the Earth's axis would be shifted by the year 2001, bringing on reversals in climate, "so that where there has been a frigid or semi-tropical climate, there will be a more tropical one, and moss and fern will grow." By this time, he indicated, a new cycle would begin.


Edgar Cayce's last reading on 17 September 1944, was for himself. He was now receiving thousands of requests for assistance. His own readings had repeatedly warned him that he should not try to undertake more than two sessions a day. But many of the letters he received were from mothers worried about their sons on the battlefields, and Cayce felt he could not refuse them his aid. His last reading told him that the time had come for him to stop working and rest. On New Year's Day, 1945, he announced that he would be buried on the fifth of January. He was right.


Ten years earlier, Cayce had written a brief account of his work. In it, he said, "The life of a person endowed with such powers is not easy. For more than forty years now I have been giving readings to those who came seeking help. Thirty-five years ago the jeers, scorn and laughter were even louder than today. I have faced the laughter of ignorant crowds, the withering scorn of tabloid headlines, and the cold smirk of self-satisfied intellectuals. But I have also known the wordless happiness of little children who have been helped, the gratitude of fathers and mothers and friends... I believe that the attitude of the scientific world is gradually changing towards these subjects."


Earth Changes


Edgar Cayce predicted that the Great Lakes would empty into the Gulf of Mexico in the future and that ancient repositories would be discovered when people reached the appropriate level of consciousness. The three repositories mentioned are Egypt, the Bimini area, and the Yucatan.


"The earth will be broken up in the western portion of America. The greater portion of Japan must go into the sea. The upper portion of Europe will be changed as in the twinkling of an eye. Land will appear off the east coast of America. When there is the first breaking up of some conditions in the South Sea and those as apparent in the sinking or rising of that that's almost opposite same, or in the Mediterranean, and the Etna area, then we many know it has begun."


"If there are greater activities in Vesuvius or Pelee, then the southern coast of California and the areas between Salt Lake and the southern portions of Nevada, we may expect, within the three months following same, inundation by the earthquakes. But these are to be more in the Southern than the Northern Hemisphere."


"There will be the upheavals in the Arctic and in the Antarctic that will make for the eruption of volcanoes in the torrid areas, and there will be the shifting then of the poles -- so that where there has been those of a frigid or the semi-tropical will become the more tropical, and moss and fern will grow.


"As to conditions in the geography of the world, of the country -- changes here are gradually coming about. No wonder, then, that the entity feels the need, the necessity for change of central location. For, many portions of the east coast will be disturbed, as well as many portions of the west coast, as well as the central portion of the U.S. In the next few years land will appear in the Atlantic as well as in the Pacific. And what is the coast line now of many a land will be the bed of the ocean. Even many battle fields of the present will be ocean, will be the seas, the bays, the lands over which The New World Order will carry on their trade as one with another.


"Portions of the now east coast of New York, or New York City itself, will in the main disappear. This will be another generation, though, here; while the southern portions of Carolina, Georgia -- these will disappear. This will be much sooner. The waters of the lakes will empty into the Gulf, rather than the waterway over which such discussions have been recently made. It would be well if the waterway were prepared, but not for that purpose for which it is at present being considered. Then the area where the entity is now located (Virginia Beach) will be among the safety lands, as will be portions of what is now Ohio, Indiana and Illinois, and much of the southern portion of Canada and the eastern portion of Canada; while the western land -- much of that is to be disturbed as, of course much in other lands."


"Strifes will arise through the period. Watch for them near the Davis Strait in the attempts there for the keeping of the life line to land open. Watch for them in Libya and in Egypt, in Ankara and in Syria, through the straits about those areas above Australia, in the Indian Ocean and the Persian Gulf."


It is also understood, comprehended by some that a new order of conditions is to arise; there must be a purging in high places as well as low; and that there must be the greater consideration of the individual, so that each soul being his brother's keeper. Then certain circumstances will come about in the political, the economic, and whole relationships to which a leveling will occur or a greater comprehension of the need for it.


"... for changes are coming, this may be sure -- an evolution or revolution in the ideas of religious thought. The basis of it for the world will eventually come out of Russia. Not communism, no! But rather that which is the basis of the same as the Christ taught -- his kind of communism."


On the Sphinx


"It would be well if this entity were to seek either of the three phases of the ways and means in which those records of the activities of individuals were preserved -- the one in the Atlantean land, that sank, which will rise and is rising again; another in the place of the records that leadeth from the Sphinx to the hall of records, in the Egyptian land; and another in the Aryan or Yucatan land, where the temple there is overshadowing same. (2012-1; Sep 25, 1939)"


"...the entity joined with those who were active in putting the records in forms that were partially of the old characters of the ancient or early Egyptian, and part in the newer form of the Atlanteans. These may be found, especially when the house or tomb of records is opened, in a few years from now. (2537-1; Jul 17, 1941) ...[the entity] was among the first to set the records that are yet to be discovered or yet to be had of those activities in the Atlantean land, and for the preservation of data that is yet to be found from the chambers of the way between the Sphinx and the pyramid of records. (3575-2; Jan 20, 1944)"


"Q: Give in detail what the sealed room contains.


A: A record of Atlantis from the beginning of those periods when the Spirit took form, or began the encasements in that land; and the developments of the peoples throughout their sojourn; together with the record of the first destruction, and the changes that took place in the land; with the record of the sojournings of the peoples and their varied activities in other lands, and a record of the meetings of all the nations or lands, for the activities in the destruction of Atlantis; and the building of the pyramid of initiation, together with whom, what, and where the opening of the records would come, that are as copies from the sunken Atlantis. For with the change, it [Atlantis] must rise again. In position, this lies -- as the sun rises from the waters -- as the line of the shadows (or light) falls between the paws of the Sphinx; that was set later as the sentinel or guard and which may not be entered from the connecting chambers from the Sphinx's right paw until the time has been fulfilled when the changes must be active in this sphere of man's experience. Then [it lies] between the Sphinx and the river. (378-16; Oct 29, 1933)"


In several of his readings, Cayce stated that the survivors of the lost continent of Atlantis had brought with them records relating to their earliest history. These, he said, were carefully buried in a secret chamber somewhere near to the Great Sphinx, which stands guard like a sentinel over the Pyramids of Giza. A second set of these records was taken, he said, by other survivors of the disaster to be buried somewhere in the Yucatan area of Mexico. He also said that a third set of records still resides in the heart of Atlantis itself.



The Shamen's Portal
Francisco Vasquez de Coronado           (1510-1554)



From the time of the earliest Spanish voyages to the New World, the soils of Texas and Oklahoma have inspired a continuous flow of legends and searches for deposits of gold, silver and mysteries. Francisco Vasquez de Coronado was among the very first of this long line of fortune seekers in the midwest.Coronado was born at Salamanca, Spain in 1510. At the age of twenty-five, he sailed to the New World, and settled in Mexico City. There, he married, started a family, and was appointed in 1538 as governor of the province of Nueva Galicia.


In response to reports of riches at the fabled Seven Cities of Cibola, Coronado led an expedition into what is now the southwestern United States and northern Texas. The expedition totaling nearly one thousand men left Mexico in 1540. After months of searching, however, the expedition found no trace of treasure. Most of the party returned to Mexico the following year, but Coronado and a smaller force continued the search. They finally returned to Mexico City, with their saddlebags still empty, in the spring of 1542.


Although Coronado lost considerable credibility during the expedition, he regained his post as city councilman on his return to Mexico City, and remained in that position until his death on September 22, 1554.


Although Coronado's expedition failed to produce gold, it marked the beginning of an endless stream of tales of lost mines and buried treasure in Texas as well as the continuing enigma in the  strip of land known as "no man's land" (An affectionate term given it by the Indian natives who knew it , later this term was adopted by the white settlers for other reasons). These legends, some documented and others passed down only by word of mouth, inspired countless searches into the sun-baked expanses of Central and West Texas. And it did produce one other legend , which stands alone in its own right, The Shamen's Portal , other wise known as the Beaver Sands Portal.  The Shamen's Portal is a place of mystery, nestled  somewhere in the sand dunes of Beaver State Park, just outside of the town of Beaver Oklahoma.  It is a little known enigma, a gate in the unknown if you will. Coronado and his men were the first white men to experience what the  natives of the area had known for thousands of years.  It is a place that demands respect of its power. Coronado lost three of his soldiers in a blinding flash of green light.  He was careful to avoid the area on the way back to Mexico.  A friar who went with  Coronado's soldiers kept a journal of the experience.  " It was the work of El Diablo" he penned, " That night by the sandy hills we had been warned  by the natives to avoid, lost we three able bodied men of valor : Juan Viscaino,  Marco Romano, and Juan Munoz. They had been hunting game for the men when the three fated soldiers were taken from us in a lightning bolt of green" (translation by Albert Gettis. -The Journal Discourses of  Fray Juan De Padilla ,1543)  Hernando Bermejo did  record the incident as well, but was later ordered by Coronado himself to strike it from the  notes. This was to be the beginning of the largest coverup in centuries.  In fact it took centuries for the truth to come out.  it was not until 1993 that any real investigation began, although people had continued to disappear until 1987, and these disappearances were always  highlighted by the same green light. This Shamen's meditation ground, was it the real reason the Oklahoma panhandle was first called by its native s"no man's land?


Rather than fade with time, the legends seemed to grow with each new wave of immigrants to the new land. Cowboys on the old trail, settlers in the land rush. By the early nineteenth century, no less notable Texan than Jim Bowie tried his luck at tracking down some of these reported  happenings.


Avro Canada's aircraft,


Avro Arrow Documentary


The most famous of Avro Canada's aircraft, the CF-105 Arrow had the shortest life of the four aircraft designed by Avro Canada.


In the autumn of 1952 the RCAF decided that, in view of the apparent increase in the threat, some consideration should be given to the ultimate replacement of the CF-100 (even before the CF-100 had entered squadron service). An evaluation team of senior RCAF officers went to all western alliance countries to ascertain the availablity of a suitable aircraft to fill the need, none of the foreign designes even being developed met Canada's needs.

The Air Staff issued a specification, Air 7-3, for the project in May 1953. This was followed in July 1953, by a ministerial directive from the Department of Defence Production to Avro authorizing the company to carry out a design study for an aircraft to meet this requirement.


Two years earlier Avro's Chief Technician, Jim Chamberlin and Edgar Atkin, Chief Engineer had been investigating a number of congigurations for a CF-100 replacement and the RCAF had show some interest in a delta-wing design. Atkin had since left to join an American firm and Jim Floyd was appointed Chief Engineer Between these two men came the proposal for the CF-105.


Not unlike the early problems with the Canuck, the Rolls-Royce RB.106 which had been planned for the CF-105 came into question due to problems at Rolls-Royce, Avro quickly switched to the Curtiss-Wright J67, only to have the US government pull out support on that engine. The only suitable engine left was the Pratt and Whitney J75 which meant that the fuselage had to be completely redisigned. In view of the frequency with which foreign engines had been cancelled, a decision was made to fit the sixth and subsequent aircraft, to be designated Mark II, with a new technology engine being developed by Orenda.

Due to the urgency of the program, Avro completed skipped the step of building a "prototype" aircraft and went right into building production aircraft!


The first CF-105 (25201) was rolled out on 4 October 1957 and was christened the Avro Arrow. It first flew on March 25, 1958, with Jan Zurakowski at the controls.

Although many have stated that the reason for the cancellation of the CF-105 was its costs, when you look at the real cost of the aircraft it was much less than what was spent on the fire contol system and missiles which were both insisted by the Air Staff and were billed against the CF-105 project, Avro had no control on this or the costs associated.


In 1957 Canada elected a new Conservative Prime Minister, John Diefenbaker, a man who could not make a desision on his own from all accounts. On 24 September 1958 Diefenbaker placed an order for the U.S. Boeing BOMARC IM-99 anti-aircraft missile and announced that on 31 March 1959 that the Arrow program would be reviewed.


On 20 February 1959 Diefenbaker anounced to Parliament that he had cancelled the whole Arrow program. Before noon that day Fred Smye was called by Department of Defence Production and informed that the Arrow and Iroquois engine contracts were cancelled and the companies must cease all work on the projects.


At 4 pm, 20 February 1959, it was announced that the entire workforce was to be layed off until something was sorted out. This day is known as "Black Friday".


The following Monday around 17% of the work force was called back to work on other projects still on the go including the Orenda engines for the CF-100 & the Avrocar project; when you think that Avro had a staff of 15,000 and there were over 650 Canadian companies supplying goods for Avro projects the impact to the nation could be seen as nothing less than criminal! The man who headed up the aerodynamic design of the Avro Arrow and who would later be hired by N.A.C.A. (NASA) and be responsible for the US Mercury, Gemini and Apollo projects as well as the design of the space shuttle and Lunar Landing Module.


This report also includes most of the radar tracking graphs as well as Avros' scale drawings of the various models tested, the scale drawings of the booster rockets, showing modifications, and the telemetry electronics that were installed within these 500 lb. models.

Wing Span: 50 ft (15.2 m)  

 Length:  85 ft 6 in (26.1 m)  

 Height: 21 ft 3 in (6.5 m)  

Weight, Empty: 43,960 lb (19,935 kg)  

 Weight, Gross: 62,431 lb (28,319 kg)  

 Cruising Speed: 701 mph (1,128 km/h)  

Max Speed: 1,524 mph (2,453 km/h)  

 Rate of Climb: 50,000 ft (15,240 m)/4 min 24 sec  

 Service Ceiling: 58,500 ft (17,830 m)  

Range: 820 mi (1,330 km)  

 Crew: two  


Power Plant: two Orenda Iroquois axial flow turbojet engines, 26,000 lb (11,791 kg) static thrust, with afterburner Sleek, elegant, and the stuff of mythology, the Avro Arrow is still alive in print and in memory. The Arrow met most of its performance requirements while flying with less powerful engines. One of the Canadian-made Iroquois engine designed for the Arrow was flight-tested attached to the rear fuselage of a Boeing B-47, but never powered the Arrow. At 34 tons, the Arrow was equivalent in weight to its ancient Avro relative, the Lancaster bomber.

It was designed as the ultimate cold war weapon: a top-secret U.S. Air Force, Army and CIA-funded flying saucer that would skim the edge of space at Mach 3 speeds.


   Avro Car video

Not all floating or hovering vehicles need to be powered by repulsorlift engines. At least not in the real world.

Back in the 1950s, a team of Canadian engineers built and flew a top-secret aircraft that swirled with conspiracies and World War II mysteries. It was&ldots; a flying saucer.

Called Avrocar, the silvery, flat and circular machine stood a metre tall and six metres in diameter. But far from carrying aliens from outer space, this "UFO" was part of a tactical military plan. Commissioned by the U.S. army and built by Avro Aircraft Limited – which also built the infamous jet fighter Avro Arrow – the idea was to build a vehicle that was capable of vertical takeoffs

and landings. This would allow it to get in and out of areas without runways. Its smooth shape also made it inherently stealthy because its lack of sharp edges made it more difficult to be picked up by enemy radar.


Far from the realm of antigravity devices, this machine was based on Newton's well-established third law of motion: For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. Three engines forced air into a large fan in the centre of the vehicle. The fan pushed the air into the aircraft body and through vents to the bottom of the aircraft. Through the use of nozzles and shutters, the air was forced into various directions to move the vehicle. To lift off, the air is pushed down. Once in the air, the air can then be directed backwards to go forward, forward to go backwards, and so on. Designed to fly at speeds of up to 500 kilometres an hour at an altitude of two to 3000 metres, two prototypes were made of light-weight aluminum in 1959.


"I went through almost a week getting all of my security papers cleared so I could work on it," recalls Al Walton of Newmarket, Ontario, who was an assembler on the Avrocar.

Keeping the project under wraps was crucial when engaged in Cold War one-upmanship with the Soviets. Rumour had it that the Germans had already flown flying saucers during the Second World War and the Soviets had begun testing them soon after. American, French and British pilots fighting in Europe reported strange, circular objects that would follow their aircraft.


    Testing the Avrocar 


"They were the so-called Foo Fighters," says Palmiro Campagna, who wrote about the Avrocar in his book The UFO Files: The Canadian Connection Exposed. "They've never really been explained."Whether they were optical illusions caused by war hysteria or real flying saucers operated by the Nazis, nobody knew for sure. But when a number of German ex-Nazis also claimed to have worked on circular aircraft, developing an American version became a national security issue.


Ten million dollars was put into the Avrocar project – most of it provided by the U.S. Army. It wanted to create a whole new fleet of aircraft based on the Avrocar, which was to be capable of carrying two personnel and shipments of weapons and supplies. The Avrotruck would carry the same number of people, but almost double the supplies at almost twice the size of Avrocar. And the Avrocoach would carry whole troops of personnel. A drawing from a top secret Avro Aircraft Limited document that has since been declassified.

But, the basic Avrocar never met its lofty goals. When tested in 1961, it only flew up to 56 km/h. Also, if it flew higher than a metre, it became unstable. The U.S. Army withdrew its funding and the project was scrapped.

But the project wasn't a failure all around. It was "very innovative" and the designers "were pushing the envelope," says Renault Fortier, curator of aviation history at the National Aviation Museum. In any event, they had essentially created the first hovercraft.


"If they had put a skirt on it, it would have worked out. It would have been the first hovercraft in a sense," points out Walton. 

The joint Canadian-U.S. saucer program is detailed in a new book by historian Bill Zuk, of Winnipeg, Manitoba, who wants to repatriate the two remaining discs held by the United States back to Canada.

In Avrocar: Canada's Flying Saucer, Zuk details the remarkable story of the failed flying disc fiasco, an experimental program that cost the U.S. government millions of dollars and left them with nothing to show for it.

The Avrocar project was the brainchild of John Frost, a chief designer with Canada's A.V. Roe company -- who was given a select group of designers, engineers and technicians to work with in the special projects division.


In 1952, Frost began work on the saucer, showing prototypes in 1953 to interested parties to help attract funding. Among the visitors who saw the first scale model -- a two-and-a-half by four-inch flying disc -- and the drawings was Lt. Gen. Donald Putt, head of the research and development command of the United States Air Force.

Putt gained NASA's approval to start development of a saucer prototype, providing $2 million to $3 million annually. "Originally, in 1950's specifications, it would have been a world-beater," Zuk said in a phone interview. 

One of the earlier versions of the 50-foot-diameter saucer was supposed to employ a cluster of six jet engines that would blow air into the center, where a large rotor would be powered from the exhaust. A series of ducts would direct the air blasts, enabling the saucer to hover and move in any direction.

This early saucer, partly funded by the CIA and known as Project Silver Bug, was housed in a large, secret concrete bunker inside Avro's plant. In the late 1950s, during testing, one of the engines misfired, leading to a complete evacuation of the testing facility.

An engineer went back into the building and manually shut down the fuel lines, saving not only the saucer, but the entire program.

As a result of the near-catastrophe, A.V. Roe proposed to the United States a simpler test vehicle that would be only 18 feet in diameter, use three engines and have room for one or two pilots. This was the Avrocar.

Despite the fact that the U.S. Air Force and Army threw $12 million at the project, the Avrocar project never really took off. The Avrocar never achieved heights of more than five feet before it became tipsy and difficult to control.

"It was flown at almost 100 percent power," Zuk said, "so the three jet engines were literally screaming as the pilot would lurch off the ground."


In 1959, Canada's conservative government cancelled A.V. Roe's Avro Arrow jet project, sparking massive layoffs. That, coupled with the failure of the Avrocar to get off the ground, effectively killed the flying saucer project.

Even so, Frost managed to convince the American government to continue testing the Avrocar until 1961. 

Today, two Avrocars remain in existence. One is in exhibit storage at the Smithsonian's Paul Garber Facility in Suitland, Maryland. The other is in the collection of the U.S. Army Transport Museum at Fort Eustis, Virginia.

Zuk is calling for the return of the Avrocars to Canada and says Canadians have lost a vital part of their aviation heritage. However, neither American museum says they will give up their saucers.

"The army paid $12 million for the project, and so in essence we own the rights to them," said Barbara Bower, director of the U.S. Army Transport Museum. "It belongs to the army. It belongs to the museum and we intend to keep it."


At the Smithsonian, curator Russell Lee calls their Avrocar important and interesting. "It is still unique and has a story to tell our visitors. For all those reasons, we will not permanently transfer the car out of our collection."

While Zuk may not see an Avrocar back in Canada anytime soon, he does have the satisfaction of knowing his book is spawning a trend.

At France's Futuroscope Theme Park, they are building a mock Avrocar to go into a restaurant called The Flying Pancake. And in Birmingham, England, a group calling itself Avrocar has just released its first recording, while a French model company has also begun offering Avrocar kits.





In Brief:


At 7:17 A.M. on the morning of June 30, 1908, a mysterious explosion occurred in the skies over Siberia. It was caused by the impact and breakup of a large meteorite, at an altitude roughly six kilometers in the atmosphere. Realistic pictures of the event are unavailable. However, Russian scientists collected eyewitness accounts of the event. I believe that we now know enough about large impacts to "decode" the subjective descriptions of the witnesses and create realistic views of this historic asteroid impact as seen from different distances.


What do we know about the explosion?


You can get a sense of the magnitude of this event by comparing observations made at different distances. Seismic vibrations were recorded by sensitive instruments as much as 1000 km (600 mi) away. At 500 km (300 mi), observers reported "deafening bangs" and a fiery cloud on the horizon. About 170 km (110 mi) from the explosion, the object was seen in the cloudless, daytime sky as a brilliant, sun like a fireball; thunderous noises were heard. At distances around 60 km, people were thrown to the ground or even knocked unconscious; windows were broken and crockery knocked off shelves. Probably the closest observers were some reindeer herders asleep in their tents in several camps about 30 km (20 mi) from the site. They were blown into the air and knocked unconscious; one man was blown into a tree and later died. "Everything around was shrouded in smoke and fog from the burning fallen trees."


 Witnesses in the town of Kirensk and nearby towns at the same distance recollected the fireball flashing across the sky in the following terms:

"A ball of fire . . . coming down obliquely. A few minutes later [we heard] separate deafening crash like peals of thunder . . . followed by eight loud bangs like gunshots."

"A ball of fire appeared in the sky . . .  As it approached the ground, it took on a flattened shape . . . " 


"A flying star with a fiery tail; its tail disappeared into the air." 


After this object passed across the sky, it approached the horizon where it was consistently described from this distance of 400 km, as appearing like a "pillar of fire," then replaced by "a cloud of smoke rising from the ground," or "a cloud of ash . . . on the horizon," or "a huge cloud of black smoke. "From a closer distance of around 200 km, several witnesses gave a better description of the object itself. It was called diffuse bright ball two or three times larger than the sun but not as bright; the trail was a "fiery-white band." Inconsistent colors were mentioned: white, red, flame-like, bluish-white. Perhaps it had a flame-like iridescence. I used these descriptions in this painting, but I compensated for the twice-greater distance. I used a visit to Washington state as an opportunity to find a landscape that generally matched the photos from Siberia, and then I painted this pine-woodland scene from life, adding the fireball from the above descriptions.


 The Russians collected a number of accounts from eyewitnesses at the trading station, which was probably the closest permanent habitation. These included:


"I was sitting on the porch of the house at the trading station, looking north. Suddenly in the north . . . the sky was split in two, and high above the forest the whole northern part of the sky appeared covered with fire. I felt a great heat, as if my shirt had caught fire . . .  At that moment there was a bang in the sky, and a mighty crash . . .  I was thrown twenty feet from the porch and lost consciousness for a moment . . .  The crash was followed by a noise like stones falling from the sky, or guns firing. The earth trembled . . .  At the moment when the sky opened, a hot wind, as if from a cannon, blew past the huts from the north. It damaged the onion plants. Later, we found that many panes in the windows had been blown out and the iron hasp in the barn door had been broken."


A second witness said: 


"I saw the sky in the north open to the ground and fire poured out. The fire was brighter than the sun. We were terrified, but the sky closed again and immediately afterward, bangs like gunshots were heard. We thought stones were falling . . .  I ran with my head down and covered, because I was afraid stones may fall on it."


In this painting I tried to show the moment when "the sky opened and with fire." I used the more distant reports, of the fire ball spreading and flattening at the end of its trajectory, to give the shape of a fiery trail and the explosive fireball. I painted the basic landscape from life in a Siberian-looking landscape outside of Flagstaff Arizona, basing the structures on old photos from the expeditions to the Siberian impact area.


Because the object exploded up in the atmosphere, instead of hitting the ground, it left no crater. The effect on the ground was limited to devastation of a large forest area. At ground zero, tree branches were stripped, leaving trunks standing up. But at distances from roughly three out to 10 miles, the trees were blown over, lying with tops pointed away from the blast. No one was known to have been this close to the blast. The closest humans were probably herders camped in tents roughly 30 km from ground zero. They related:


"Early in the morning when everyone was asleep in the tent, it was blown up in the air along with its occupants. Some lost consciousness. When they regained consciousness, they heard a great deal of noise and saw the forest burning around them, much of it devastated."


"The ground shook and incredibly prolonged roaring was heard. Everything round about was shrouded in smoke and fog from burning, falling trees. Eventually the noise died away and the wind dropped, but the forest went on burning. Many reindeer rushed away and were lost."


One older man at about this distance was reportedly blown about forty feet into a tree, causing a compound fracture of his arm, and he soon died. Hundreds of the herders' reindeer, in the general area around ground zero, were killed. Many campsites and storage huts scattered in the area were destroyed. During a workshop of the International Association for the Astronomical Arts, I painted this view at Mt. St. Helens, Washington, where the devastated area bears an uncanny resemblance to the photos of the explosion site. At both the Siberian site and Mt. St. Helens are vistas where one sees nothing but felled trees, mile after mile, across distant hillsides. The transient heat flash from the fireball was felt by the witnesses at Vanavara, and apparently within about 30 km it was strong enough to ignite small temporary fires in the forest and singe tree bark. I based the view of the cloud in the sky on the distant reports of an ashy-colored cloud of smoke forming at the site of the blast; it was probably augmented some minutes later by smoke from the burning forest. Streamers of smoke from fragmented material would soon dissipate in air currents.


Some minutes after the explosion, distant observers reported a column of smoke on the horizon. The general terms indicated this was a vertical column. One observer said "Where the body disappeared behind the horizon, a pillar of dark smoke rose up." It seems unclear from the reports whether this was (a) a mushroom-like cloud from the explosion fireball rising above the landscape and pulling up smoke from the ignited forest, (b) smoke from the forest fire, or ©), from some directions, a reference to the contrail, which would be vertical when seen under the flight path. I have wondered whether the dark color could result from the smoke of the explosion containing black, sooty carbonaceous particles, in the same way that the explosion clouds on Jupiter from the impact of Comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 were very dark. This view represents the scene from a village along the Angara River, about 170 km SW of the blast. The original was painted from among cabins in a state park in Oregon.


What was the explosion? 


Because the meteorite did not strike the ground or make a crater, early researchers thought the object might be a weak, icy fragment of a comet, which vaporized explosively in the air, and left no residue on the ground. However, modern planetary scientists have much better tools for understanding a meteorite explosion in the atmosphere. As a meteorite slams into the atmosphere at speeds around 12 to 20 km/sec or more, it experiences a strong mechanical shock, like a diver belly-flopping into water. This can break apart stones of a certain size range, which explode instead of hitting the ground. Some of them drop brick-sized fragments on the ground, but others, such as the one that hit Siberia, may produce primarily a fireball and cloud of fine dust and tiny fragments. In 1993 researchers Chris Chyba, Paul Thomas, and Kevin Zahnle studied the Siberian explosion and concluded it was of this type -- a stone meteorite that exploded in the atmosphere. This conclusion was supported when Russian researchers found tiny, stony particles embedded in the trees at the collision site, matching the composition of common stone meteorites. The original asteroid fragment may have been roughly 50-60 meters (50-60 yards) in diameter.


 If asteroids hit Earth, why don't we see more such explosions? 


Many asteroidal fragments circle the Sun; the Siberian object was merely the largest to hit the Earth in the last century or so. Had it hit a populated area, devastation would have been enormous. If there are many asteroid fragments, why don't we see more hits? We do! The problem is that they have not been understood until recently. Current studies reveal that such explosions may happen every couple of centuries; however, six out of seven happen over the ocean, and few happen over populated land. A key to the phenomenon is: the larger the impact the rarer it is. An Air Force satellite in the 1990s detected a smaller explosion over the Pacific. In 1972, a 1000-ton object skimmed tangentially through Earth's atmosphere over the Grand Tetons in Wyoming, and then skipped back out into space, like a stone skipping off water. It was photographed by tourists and detected by Air Force satellites. Had it continued on into the atmosphere, it could have caused a Hiroshima-scale explosion over Canada, somewhat smaller than the Siberian blast. Even larger objects have hit Earth, but they are more rare. For example, an iron asteroid fragment perhaps 100 m across hit Arizona about 20,000 years ago, leaving the kilometer-wide "Arizona Meteor Crater," which is open to visitors; and a 10-km asteroid hit Earth 65 million years ago, ending the reign of dinosaurs. Brick-sized interplanetary stones fall from the sky in various locations every year. Several houses and a car have been hit in recent decades. Tiny dust grains are even more common; they can be seen every night if you watch long enough; they are the bright streaks of light sometimes called "shooting stars." Interplanetary space contains many small bodies of different sizes. All of them move in elliptical orbits around the sun as prescribed by Kepler. Occasionally their orbits intersect those of planets, leading to a collision. Large enough bodies leave sizable craters on planets or satellites. This explains why impact craters are present on surfaces of planets and moons throughout the solar system. If we continue to study asteroids and build more telescopes for detecting and tracking them, we will have better information about the frequency of such asteroid impact-explosions, and more chance to have warning about impending impacts.




Tunguska-sized explosions occur on Earth about once per century, and larger explosions the size of the largest H-bombs, occur about once per millennium. Many of these explode in the atmosphere and cause devastation over tens of kilometers, but don't leave long-lasting craters. Recall that 1/6 of Earth is covered by land and assumes that roughly half the land surface is populated in the last 12,000 years, since humans moved into the Americas. Using this fact's comment on whether meteorite explosions of this scale might plausibly have produced legends of wrathful or capricious celestial gods, who could rain fire onto the Earth, as for example in the legend of the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah by celestial fire. Take into account those oral traditions, such as the associations of certain star patterns with constellations such as the Great Bear (Ursa Major), can apparently be passed down for thousands of years.




Let's make use of what scientists calls an "order of magnitude" estimate, or "back of the envelope calculation." If we imagine spectacular catastrophic explosions larger than Tunguska happening every 300 years, and having effects visible over 100 km or more form ground zero, then there would be one over land about every 1800 years, and perhaps one over a populated area every 3600 years or so. Thus it seems plausible that in 12,000 years of oral tradition and about 4000 years of written records in some cultures, there may have been one ore more explosions considerably larger than the Tunguska event. By the same logic, if Tunguska-scale events happen once per century, there could have been several just in the last several scattered around the populated land areas of the world in the last 3600 years.


Thus, it seems at least plausible that large explosions of meteoritic objects were among the celestial events (together with smaller meteorite impacts, auroras, hurricanes, storms, and floods) that gave rise to belief in capricious godlike forces acting from the skies.




Recent scientific studies by meteorite researcher Christopher Chyba have estimated that the Tunguska event may have been caused by the explosion of a stony meteorite about 30 meters in diameter traveling at about 15 km/s. Compare the energy released by such an object with that of an atomic bomb such as those dropped on Japan in World War II.




Here again we can make a simple "order of magnitude" calculation. 


First, we have to know the energy liberated by an A-bomb. The Hiroshima bomb expended the energy of roughly ten thousand tons of TNT, or 18 "kilotons" in military parlance. One kiloton (1 KT) is about 4.2 x 1012 joules (the joule is the unit of energy in the Standard International, or "SI," set of scientific units). The Hiroshima bomb thus represented roughly 8 x 1013 joules of energy.


Now all we have to do is calculate the energy of the meteoroid. In freshman physics courses, you learn that the kinetic energy of a moving object is 1/2mV2.


The trick in using any equation like this is to be sure to use the correct units. In SI, the units are meters, kilograms, and seconds, so that mass m must be in kilograms and velocity V must be in meters/second.


Thus, right away we can say that V in the equation will be V = 15 km/s or 1.5 x 104 m/s. 


To get the mass, we have to figure out the mass of a 30-meter wide rock. Rock has a density of about 3000 kg per cubic meter, so we need to calculate the volume of the rock and multiply times this density. Thus, we have,


m = (4/3) PI R3 (3000 kg/m3) = (4/3) PI (15 m)3 (3000) = 4.2 x 107 kg. 


Thus the total energy is, 


E=1/2 (4.2 x 107 kg) (1.5 x 104 m/s)2 = 4.8 x 1015 joules. 



To be safe, let's imagine that half the kinetic energy is lost to noise, slowing, and fragmentation of the meteoroid before it explodes. That still leaves about 2 x 1015 joules for the Tunguska explosion, compared to about 3 x 1013 joules for the Hiroshima A-bomb.


Thus, our estimate is that the Tunguska had an explosive energy roughly on order of 60 A-bombs, or 500 KT of TNT. It was closer in effect to a very large H-bomb.


For further information: 


Chyba, C., P. Thomas, and K. Zahnle 1993. "The 1908 Tunguska Explosion: Atmospheric Disruption of a Stony Asteroid". Nature 361, p. 40-44. (Calculation of size of the bolide.)


Gallant, Roy A. 1994 "Journey to Tunguska". Sky and Telescope, June, 38-43. (Description of a modern journey to the site, with photographs.)


Krinov, E. L. 1966 Giant Meteorites (London: Pergamon Press). (Description of the site and interviews with witnesses).


Great Pyramid was a plutonium mill

King,s chamber,  you can see the water line

V shape floor, top of gallery for water to flow down

Staircase  going down to the water table

Intresting notes

  • Khufu reign Egypt 2589–2566 BC

  • Many Arab writers were convinced that the Great Pyramid and  others were built by the god Hermes and not Khufu.

  • The pyramids are arranged in the exact alignments precisely in spacing and proportional size to how Orion’s belt appeared in 11,451  BC.

  • There is water erosion around the sphinx, and the climate there has been dry since about 10,500 BC.

  • The head of the sphinx was originally that of a lion, but was reshaped.

  • Watermarks  were clearly visible on the limestone casing stones 400 feet up of the Great Pyramid before they were removed by the Arabs.

  • 80m staircase found near Giza leading down, to the water table.

  • Rolling back the star's too 11,451 BC, the three pyramids were aline with Orion's Belt in the sky, and the Sphinx was looking directly at the constellation of Leo the lion on the horizon. In Khufu reign the sphinx was facing Taurus the bull.

  • The great Pyramid has eight sides and the exact shape can only be seen  from the air, and on Spring and Autumn Equinoxes.

  • The interior temperature is constant and equals the average temperature of the earth, 20 Degrees Celsius (68 Degrees Fahrenheit).

  • 144,000 casing stones that made up the outer mantle of the Great Pyramid were highly polished and flat to an accuracy of 1/100th of an inch, weighing approx. 15 tons each

  • The cornerstone foundations of the pyramid have ball and socket construction capable of dealing with heat expansion and earthquakes

  • Around the base of the pyramid were found to contain seashells and  fossils that have been radiocarbon-dated at nearly twelve thousand years old.

  • All of the radio carbon dating of the  Great pryamid  is from the outside faces, and none from the inside of the pryamid.

  • New figures show there are 3.5 million blocks, and they state that they built it in 20 years. That would mean they had to lay down 1 block every 3 minutes exactly level with the other blocks, within 1/1000 of an inch, 24 hours a day for over 20 years.

  • ( One theory is Khufu restored the pryamids and sphinx and put his name on it. )

  • Evidence for Ancient High Technology - Part 1: Machining   New

  • Ancient Anomalies Of Giza Academia Can't Explain  New

  • The Book of Enoch Banned from The Bible Tells the True Story of Humanity  New

The Revelation Of The Pyramids (Documentary)


This paper was originally reviewed and published in the Meta Research Bulletin, Volume 12, Number 1, March15, 2003 by Meta Research, Inc, a scientific non-profit corporation dedicated to supporting promising but unpopular alternative ideas in astronomy.

The Other Two Pyramids at Giza



Abstract: The premise that the Great Pyramid was a plutonium mill is briefly reviewed. The practical uses of the plutonium are examined. The internal geometries of the second and third pyramids are related to the known fabrication and assembly steps of making nuclear fission thermal engine cores. The speculation that the Great Pyramid at Giza was a nuclear mill for breeding and then extracting plutonium was presented in Great Pyramid at Giza in the September 2001, Meta Research Bulletin. Based upon additional reflection and analysis, it is now proposed that the Second Pyramid and Third Pyramid were also engaged in the same enterprise.




A brief review of the Great Pyramid’s internal design and its alleged operations is needed to establish the relevance of the second and third pyramids:



The King’s Chamber, j, would have contained uranium oxide plus other components within the granite sarcophagus. The nuclear breeding was activated by passing water down the southern “air” shaft, g, and heat was removed by expelling steam through the northern “air” shaft, g, and by letting hot water pass around the granite blocks in the Antechamber, i. The water then flowed down the Great Gallery, h, down through the Service Corridor, d, and then down the Descending Corridor, b, to the Bottomless Pit below the Underground Chamber, c. Besides heat, the water also carried away “waste” radioactive isotopes down into the sand layer beneath the “Bottomless” Pit. Because a complete, intricate stone foundation consistent for a hydroelectric water turbine currently exists in the Underground Chamber, it is proposed that such a turbine would have been turned by the down flowing water, subsequently producing a modest amount of electrical energy for operations within the pyramid. This electrical system would have provided lighting and power for equipment in the Queen’s Room. The water would have then flowed down the “Bottomless” Pit into a highly permeable sand layer in the substrata. The Queen’s Room would have housed the equipment for the chemical extraction and purification of plutonium metal from reacted uranium oxide. The final product would have been very small “buttons” of metallic plutonium/uranium. Humans have stripped any artifacts of interest or value from the pyramid over several thousand years, including the facing stones on the outside, which weigh 5 to 7 tons. Therefore, the modern discovery of artifacts within the pyramid has been limited to a small iron plate, a stone ball and a wood stick hidden within an airshaft in the Queen’s Room.


What was the purpose in making plutonium? The September 2001 article placed a value of one million dollars for a pound of plutonium, based upon the competitive cost of electrical power in the year 2001 – as produced by coal, oil, natural gas, hydroelectric dams, nuclear reactors, etc. But, thousands of years ago, of what practical use was plutonium to a civilization of humans or “aliens”? There is no archaeological evidence of large power reactors and electrical grids. There is no evidence of large metal smelters or metal fabricating mills. This leaves three possibilities, which are not necessarily mutually exclusive to one another: nuclear weapons, nuclear propulsion or export of nuclear fuel off this planet. There is only one Giza complex on Earth. No other, functionally equivalent site has been found. Therefore, without any apparent opponent or competition, no rational motivation for creating nuclear weapons would seem to have existed. If export of nuclear power off of this planet actually took place, then the creation of nuclear engines for propulsion was automatically a part of that enterprise. If this civilization did not leave Earth, then nuclear engines still remain the most probable use of the nuclear fuel.


Let’s consider the practicality of nuclear fission thermal engines. A conventional jet engine carries a fuel, such as kerosene, to burn with the air entering the engine assembly. The thrust created depends on the exhaust gas temperature, which sets the exit velocity of the exhaust gas. With current technology, and the limit of energy released by chemical oxidation, the exhaust temperature approaches 3,000 degrees Fahrenheit in a conventional jet engine. Engine thrust is a major determinant in the amount of fuel an aircraft can carry, which in turn determines it range. A “best” performance of a jet aircraft would be to travel possibly 14,000 miles or about 28 hours. A nuclear jet engine’s fuel is the fissionable nuclear core, which would be very small. Given the current limits on materials, the exhaust gas temperature can be about 5,500 degrees Fahrenheit. This produces a much higher thrust. The nuclear core material is not expelled out the engine with the exhaust gas. The only gas involved is the entering atmospheric air. How long or far can such an aircraft travel before refueling? Ignoring maintenance, a nuclear aircraft would only need to refuel every 3 to 5 years. The difference between a nuclear fission jet aircraft and a conventional jet aircraft is as profound as the difference between a nuclear submarine and a conventional submarine. A diesel-powered submarine can travel under water for less than a day. A nuclear submarine can travel under water until the crew runs out of food. If the crew stored enough food, the nuclear submarine could remain under water for more than twenty years.



The difference between a nuclear fission rocket ship and a conventional rocket ship is not as great as it is for jet aircraft. The nuclear rocket ship must carry a “propellant”. That is, a substance which can be vaporized and raised to very high temperature, and then discharged at high velocity. On paper, a simple nuclear rocket will have about twice the performance of the very best conventional rocket. Actual nuclear fission rocket engines were designed, fabricated and tested during the 1960s. Their monitored performance exceeded expectations. Rocket engineers believe that their performance can be substantially improved. What is the practical significance? A manned mission from Earth to Mars and back, by chemical rocketry, would require a monumental amount of fuel and equipment, with no margin for error. By comparison, the same trip with nuclear rocket engines is much shorter, much easier and could be accomplished with a huge margin for error.


Do nuclear fission thermal engines release radioactive isotopes? Yes, a tiny amount, which is dispersed. Such engines would be politically incorrect but, in reality, this minute radiation would have almost no additional effect on biology, in comparison to natural sources of radiation.


Calculations for water flow and steam flow through the airshafts of the Great Pyramid system indicate a very modest level of plutonium production. (An attempt at a larger production rate would raise the pressure of the King’s Chamber high enough to stop all water flow.) Nothing like what was accomplished by the United States or the Soviet Union. In terms of bombs or engines, it produced probably less than ten per year. This implies that the population size of this “nuclear” civilization was very small, perhaps consisting of no more than a thousand persons of advanced nature. This scenario presents a logical problem. Our progress from the Stone Age to the nuclear age has required a continually growing population base, which by the 20th century necessitated hundreds of millions of persons. There is no evidence of such a population base and a technology growth for the Giza Pyramids. It is as if someone arrived in Egypt already possessing all the knowledge required to design, build and operate the pyramids but lacking many materials such as metals. We have the peculiar combination of Stone Age plus nuclear age. This makes the idea of beings coming from another planet more consistent with this paper’s premise.


In the September 2001 article, the Second Pyramid was dismissed as being irrelevant because its internal geometry was not similar to the Great Pyramid. This author asserted that it could not have operated as a reactor, and therefore was a failed attempt to emulate the Great Pyramid. In hindsight, this was a complete misjudgment. Given that the Great Pyramid was very well built and made total sense as a nuclear mill, why wouldn’t the Second Pyramid also have been intelligently built and functional, but perhaps intended for a different purpose?


This brings us to the plutonium “buttons” produced in the Great Pyramid. These buttons must be kept separated from one another. If they were piled together, that would cause a criticality – a self-sustaining, high intensity, neutron flux. In other words, they would constitute a nuclear reactor that has been turned on. There would be no explosion but the neutron radiation would be lethal to any nearby person in less than a second. As is done today, the buttons would have been placed and immobilized in a large, mostly solid, box with guaranteed geometric separation between buttons. Such a box would be very heavy, on purpose, and would rest upon a wagon. Maneuvering the wagon would have been done by ropes with a considerable distance between persons and the box. In reality, the buttons would emit all types of radiation, because one cannot achieve absolutely pure Pu-239.


Let’s look at the internal geometry of the Second Pyramid:





The fabrication of plutonium into useful forms for a bomb, or a nuclear module for an engine requires the following steps:


    Melting plutonium buttons.

    Pouring the melt into molds.

    Removing the plutonium from the molds.

    Machining the molded plutonium to achieve exact dimensions for plutonium parts.

    Tack welding plutonium parts together to form larger geometric structures. 


In all of the above steps, there must be:


    Protection against criticalities.

    Protection of the workers from expected radiation.

    Protection against fires.

    Good geometric separation of the various steps so that any one accident would endanger as few steps of the process as possible.

    A means for workers to suit up before operations and a way to decontaminate after operations. 


These steps and protections can be addressed by the internal geometry of the Second Pyramid:


    The Upper Entrance and Upper Descending Passage would allow for lowering the plutonium wagon into the Second Pyramid.

    The level corridor gives good distance to the Burial Chamber.

    The massive granite sarcophagus provides a stable, long lasting chamber for melting and casting plutonium. Limestone blocks would disintegrate, giving off carbon dioxide and leaving calcium oxide dust, under such high, radiant temperature.

    The cooled plutonium moldings would be brought by heavy wagon, out of the Burial Chamber, along the level corridor, down to the lower corridor, and then into the Subsidiary Chamber.

    The machining and tack welding of plutonium parts would have been done in the Subsidiary Chamber in a stretched out, assembly line fashion.

    The parts would have been loaded in a heavy wagon and taken out via the Upper Descending Passage and out the Upper Entrance.

    Workers would have entered and exited the pyramid by the Lower Entrance and Lower Descending Passage. This route would have been kept radiation free.

    The offset area close to the Subsidiary Chamber would be the logical position for protective suits and for decontamination. 


There would have been blocks of carbon and the equivalent of plexiglass, to isolate the plutonium and to protect the workers. Significant amounts of these materials would have been in both chambers. Unfortunately, though these materials are excellent protection against neutron radiation, they are flammable. The American equivalent to this operation has had two accidental fires in the past half century. Both came very close to being disasters and one of the fires almost caused a criticality.


Conventional theory grants symbolism to the internal geometry, with even the idea that the slopes of the passageways have some numerical meaning or message. The nuclear speculation gives a utilitarian purpose to every passage, slope and chamber, and it is consistent in theme with the Great Pyramid speculation. The interior floors, walls and ceilings have a very drab, industrial appearance.



Let’s now view and consider the internal geometry of the Third Pyramid:



This interior is highly complex and very different from the other two pyramids. There are sloping passageways, which are consistent with moving a heavy wagon. Quite a number of chambers are present.


In our civilization, what has evolved in the design of complex apparatus over the past half century? It has been found that when there is failure of parts, by accidental damage or simply wearing out, that intricate repair work, in place, becomes far too time consuming or dangerous or even “impossible”. Consider the level of effort and risk of failure for astronauts to make repairs to such entities as the Hubble Telescope. Design has gravitated over to the concept of modules. When a particular piece of equipment has failed, we simply extract the entire module it is within and replace it with a fresh module. The entire process is quickly returned to service and the module with damage or worn out parts can be worked on separately or simply thrown away. Consider a nuclear fission thermal engine. The nuclear core module would be a small portion of that engine. It is proposed that such modules were loaded, and perhaps reloaded, with the plutonium fuel inside the Third Pyramid. The loading of these modules would have been conducted in the Burial Chamber. Fresh modules would have been stored in the Chamber with 6 Niches. Note that the niches are separated from one another by a moderate distance and limestone. They are also pointed away from the Burial Chamber, where a new or used module would be reassembled. Limestone does absorb neutrons to a moderate extent. It makes a great deal of sense to have identical nuclear modules and to have an inventory of them in a secure location.


When needed, a fresh nuclear module would be taken from a niche, loaded into a wagon in the small chamber adjacent to the Burial Chamber, brought up the first sloping passage, passed through the security portcullis, and on up and out the Descending Passage. A used module with spent fuel might have been brought to the Third Pyramid for reprocessing or it may have been abandoned. If such a module were brought to the pyramid, it might have been brought to the Antechamber and taken around the sloping passage where it could have had spent fuel removed in the small pit within that room. The emptied module may then have been taken down the sloping passage to the Burial Chamber for refitting with fresh fuel. The spent fuel could then have been taken to the Great Pyramid for processing. The spent fuel would have enough remaining plutonium (less than 30%) to boost the nuclear breeding in the Sarcophagus in the King’s Chamber. This recycling is only a possibility.


If the Giza pyramids were a nuclear production complex, they were completely disabled when the granite blocks within the King’s Antechamber of the Great Pyramid were moved to the bottom of the Ascending Corridor. The blocks remain there to this day. History states that the Arabs tunneled their way around these blocks in 820 AD. This digging was 20 to 30 feet in distance. Prior to that, there is no positive evidence of any intrusion into the upper portion of the Great Pyramid. It is extremely doubtful that any pharaoh ever had access to the Ascending Corridor, the Great Gallery, the Queen’s Room or the King’s Chamber of the Great Pyramid. Some writers have claimed that the Service Corridor, d, was dug by the Pharaoh Khufu’s men to either gain access to the upper portions of the pyramid or to escape from these upper portions after they placed the granite blocks at the bottom end of the Ascending Corridor. The narrowness, complexity and vertical length of this shaft make this a huge, unnecessary effort in comparison to what the Arabs dug to get into the Ascending Corridor. The Service Corridor’s precise geometry implies that it was a part of original construction and design.


A lack of knowledge of the upper internal geometry of the Great Pyramid by the ancient Egyptians is reflected in the internal geometries of the Meidum Pyramid, the Bent Pyramid and the Red Pyramid, which, according to ancient Egyptian records, were built by the pharaoh Sneferu in the 25th century BC. Their internal geometries lack the upper internal geometry of the Great Pyramid.


Could the original builders have made bombs? The answer is yes, but the bombs would have been of very poor quality. Modern breeding reactors rely upon many different, high purity materials – mostly metals. Their structure is geometrically intricate and they are closely monitored. In contrast, the Great Pyramid reaction bed and chamber are relatively simple. Its nuclear product would have contained many isotopes of plutonium. This is fine for engines but very detrimental for bombs. Nuclear bomb cores made from this material would have to be unusually large, the nuclear detonation would be very inefficient and the radioactive fallout would be extreme. One would anticipate more deaths from fallout than from the explosion.



In summation, the internal geometries of the three pyramids can be matched to the process of creating plutonium, extracting it, fabricating it and finally making nuclear engines with it. Conventional theory insists that all three pyramids were simply tombs of three, successive pharaohs – but they have wildly different internal geometries. The nuclear speculation gives the pyramids an economic justification. What practical benefit were the pyramids to a living population, if they were only tombs. Prior writers have proposed that the pharaohs Khufu, Khafre and Menkaure, adopted the already existing pyramids for their personal aggrandizement.

Appendix. Methodologies for Scientific Proof of Plutonium Processing in the 2nd and 3rd Pyramids

The speculation about the second and third pyramids at Giza is centered on plutonium isotopes. The trace presence of uranium isotopes within the pyramids would not establish, by itself, that they were used for plutonium processing. Uranium is a natural trace component of granite, and to a much lesser extent, a trace component of limestone.


However, the trace presence of any isotopes of plutonium would be an artificial signature of processing because natural, trace levels of uranium within rock do not lead to the production of plutonium. The most likely candidate location to look for plutonium contamination would be the granite sarcophagus in the Second Pyramid, where it is proposed that plutonium was melted and cast. If the premise of this paper is correct, some minute but detectable level of deposition of plutonium onto the granite would have occurred there.


Further, if spent nuclear cores were disassembled in the Third Pyramid, we should be able to detect plutonium, as well as the presence of the final dead-end fission products, Barium-137 and Zirconium-90, in the assembly areas of that pyramid. 





Great Flood ':


The Greeks wrote of two great floods, which they called Deucalion and Ogyges. 


Another possible source for dating the Great Pyramid may be found in sediments surrounding the base of the monument, in legends regarding watermarks on the stones halfway up its sides, and in salt incrustations found within. Silt sediments rising to fourteen feet around the base of the pyramid were found to contain seashells and fossils that have been radiocarbon-dated at nearly twelve thousand years old. These sediments could only have been deposited in such great quantities by major sea flooding; an event the dynastic Egyptians could never have recorded because they were not living in the area until thousands of years after the flood.


In support of this ancient flood scenario, there is a legend that a watermark was clearly visible on the limestone casing stones of the Great Pyramid before the stones were removed by the Arabs. These watermarks were halfway up the sides of the pyramid, or about 400 feet above the present level of the Nile River. Further, when the Great Pyramid was first opened, incrustations of salt an inch thick were found inside. While much of this salt is known to be natural exudation from the stones of the pyramid, chemical analysis has shown that some of the salt has a mineral content consistent with salt from the sea. These salt incrustations, found at a height corresponding to the water level marks left on the exterior, are further evidence that at some time in the distant past the pyramid was partially submerged.


The following is from the book 'Eden in the East' by S. Oppenheimer- 


    The oceanographic record shows that since the end of the last ice-age, the sea level rose at least 120 metres with three distinct periods of flooding on the following dates'. (Each Flood Period was proceeded by a 'Cold-snap' of 400-1,200 yrs)-  14,000 Yrs ago, 11,000 Yrs ago  and  8,000 -7,500 Yrs ago -  'The last flush of the post glacial melt water slowed to a trickle as the rise in sea-level peaked on continental shelves around 5.500 yrs ago Over the next few thousand years the sea level settled back by up to 5m, and the coastline emerged (retreated) again, to a distance of over 100km'...Over this area, from 7,500 - 5,500 Yrs. ago., marine inundation persisted' (i.e. Woolle:. Royal Cemetery of Ur).


    In addition to the written records, there is substantial visible evidence of inundation surrounding the Sphinx enclosure 


An extraordinary event in 1967 would put the small fishing village of Shag Harbour on the map. Located at the southern tip of Nova Scotia, this rural community would play host to one of the most well documented UFO events in the modern era.


Named after the “shag,” a bird of the cormorant family, the harbour was left off of maps most of the time, but that would be changed once and for all on one clear October night.


The tiny fishing community has always had its stories&ldots; stories of giant sea serpents, man-eating squid, and ghost ships. The list of local colour would see one more addition to its list: a story of a visit of a mysterious flying craft of unknown origin. This craft would visit the skies and waters of Shag Harbour, permanently stamping the village’s name in the public eye.

Orange Lights in the Sky


The first indication of this mysterious occurrence would come from local residents who noticed strange orange lights in the sky on the night of October 4, 1967. Most witnesses agreed that there were four orange lights that evening. Five teenagers watched these lights flash in sequence, and then suddenly dive in a 45 degree angle toward the water’s surface. The witnesses were surprised that the lights did not dive into the water, but seemed to float on the water, approximately one-half mile from the shore.

Witnesses at first thought they were watching a tragic airplane crash, and quickly reported as much to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, which was located at Barrington Passage. Coincidently, RCMP Constable Ron Pound had already witnessed the strange lights himself as he drove down Highway 3 in route to Shag Harbour. Pound felt that he was seeing 4 lights, all attached to one flying craft. He estimated the craft to be about 60 feet long.

The Response witness Constable Pound made his way to the shore to get a closer look at the phenomenal sight. He was accompanied by Police Corporal Victor Werbieki, Contable Ron O’Brien, and other local residents. Pound clearly saw a yellow light slowly moving on the water, leaving a yellowish foam in its wake. All eyes were glued on the light, as it slowly either moved too distant to be seen, or dipped into the icy waters.



Coast Guard Cutter #101 and other local boats rushed to the spot of the sighting, but by the time they arrived, the light itself was gone. However, the crewmen could still see the yellow foam, indicating that something had possibly submerged. Nothing else could be found that night, and the search was called off at 3:00 AM.


The RCMP ran a traffic check with the Rescue Coordination Centre in Halifax, and Canadian Forces Station Barrington at Baccaro, Nova Scotia, a NORAD radar facility. They were told that there were no missing aircraft reported that evening, either civilian, or military.

The Report


shag harbor mapThe following day, the Rescue Coordination Center filed a report with Canadian Forces Headquarters in Ottawa. This report stated that something had hit the water in Shag Harbor, and the object was of “unknown origin.”


Divers from HMCS Granby was deployed to the location of the crash, where they searched the bottom of the ocean for several days, but without positive results&ldots; That we know of.


Soon, the story of the mysterious crash at Shag Harbor died as quickly as it had begun. That is, until 1993. As the original story faded from papers and newscasts, several theories were put forward. One explanation was that a Russian spacecraft had crashed, which would explain the presence of a Russian submarine in the area. There was also the rumor of American involvement in the follow-up investigation, but there was no official statement from the United States.

Chris Styles


The Shag Harbor incident would have new life breathed into it through the efforts of MUFON investigator Chris Styles. The case intrigued him so much that he decided to search for more details. Styles found the names of many of the original witnesses through newspaper clippings, and was able to interview many of them.



Styles was assisted by MUFON investigator Doug Ledger. These two men would uncover some extremely compelling evidence through their interviews. They discovered that when the divers of HMCS Granby finished their work, the case was not over, after all.


The divers, along with other witnesses related these events: The object that entered the waters of Shag Harbour had soon left the area, traveling underwater for about 25 miles to a place called Government Point, at the mouth of Shelburne Harbour, which was near a top-secret NATO submarine detection base. The object was detected with hydrophones and naval vessels were positioned over it. After a couple of days of military observation by navy divers and sensors, the military made plans for a recovery operation. That’s when a second USO (unidentified submerged object) joined the first. “Off the record” military witnesses indicate that the second craft had arrived to render aid to the original USO.


The Navy


At this time, the Navy decided to wait and watch. After about a week of monitoring the two USOs, the flotilla of navy vessels were promptly deployed to investigate a Russian submarine which had entered Canadian waters nearby. At this point, the two underwater craft made their move. They made their way to the Gulf of Maine, and putting distance between themselves and the chasing navy ships, they broke the surface, and shot away into the skies.


landscapeThese extraordinary events were corroborated by many witnesses, both civilian and military. Unfortunately, the reports were given “off the record.” Ex-military personnel feared the loss of their pensions, and civilian witnesses feared ridicule, and their privacy being invaded. The unusual events of Shag Harbor command an important place in the study of UFOs and USOs. There is little doubt that something “unknown” crashed, or landed, into the waters of Shag Harbor on October 4, 1967.


A collection of strange tales about British Columbia's wild men as told by those who say they have seen them. 

 Introducing B.C.'s Hairy Giants  J. W. Burns   

Are the vast mountain solitudes of British Columbia, of which but very few have been so far, explored, populated by a hairy race of giants-men-not ape-like men?


 Reports from time to time, covering a period of many years, have come from the hinderlands of the province, that hairy giants had been occasionally seen by Indian and white trappers in the mountain vastness, far from the pathway of civilization. These reports, however, were always vague and indefinite; for the reason that no person could be found, or, at least, nobody came forward with the information that they had obtained a close-up view of these strange creatures. Persistent rumors led the writer to make diligent enquiries among old Indians. The question relating to the subject was always, or nearly always, evaded with the trite excuse: "The white man don't believe, he make joke of the Indian." But after three years of plodding, I have come into possession of information more definite and authentic than has come to light at any previous time. Disregarding rumor and hearsay, I have prevailed upon men who claim they had actual contact with these hairy giants, to tell what they know about them. Their story is set down here in good faith. Peter Williams lives on the Chehalis Reserve. I believe that he is a reliable as well as an intelligent Indian. He gave me the following thrilling account of his experience with these people. Peter's Encounter with the Giant One evening in the month of May twenty years ago," he said, "I was walking along the foot of the mountain about a mile from the Chehalis reserve. I thought I heard a noise something like a grunt nearby.


 Looking in the direction in which it came, I was startled to see what I took at first sight to be a huge bear crouched upon a boulder twenty or thirty feet away. I raised my rifle to shoot it, but, as I did, the creature stood up and let out a piercing yell. It was a man — a giant, no less than six and one-half feet in height, and covered with hair. He was in a rage and jumped from the boulder to the ground. I fled, but not before I felt his breath upon my cheek. The Chehalis river which the hairy giant waded in pursuit of Peter "I never ran so fast before or since — through brush and undergrowth toward the Statloo, or Chehalis River, where my dugout was moored. From time to time, I looked back over my shoulder. The giant was fast overtaking me — a hundred feet separated us; another look and the distance measured less than fifty — then the Chehalis and in a moment the dugout shot across the stream to the opposite bank. The swift river, however, did not in the least daunt the giant, for he began to wade it immediately."I arrived home almost worn out from running and I felt sick. Taking an anxious look around the house, I was relieved to find the wife and children inside. I bolted the door and barricaded it with everything at hand. Then with my rifle ready, I stood near the door and awaited his coming."Peter added that if he had not been so much excited he could easily have shot the giant when he began to wade the river. "After an anxious waiting of twenty minutes," resumed the Indian, "I heard a noise approaching like the trampling of a horse. I looked through a crack in the old wall. It was the giant. Darkness had not yet set in and I had a good look at him. Except that he was covered with hair and twice the bulk of the average man, there was nothing to distinguish him from the rest of us. He pushed against the wall of the old house with such force that it shook back and forth. The old cedar shook and timbers creaked and groaned so much under the strain that I was afraid it would fall down and kill us. I whispered to the old woman to take the children under the bed."Peter pointed out what remained of the old house in which he lived at the time, explaining that the giant treated it so roughly that it had to be abandoned the following winter."After prowling and grunting like an animal around the house," continued Peter, "he went away. We were glad, for the children and the wife were uncomfortable under the old bedstead. Next morning I found his tracks in the mud around the house, the biggest of either man or beast I had ever seen. The tracks measured twenty-two inches in length, but narrow in proportion to their length."The following winter while shooting wild duck on that part of the reserve Indians call the "prairie," which is on the north side of the Harrison River and about two miles from the Chehalis village. Peter once more came face to face with the same hairy giant. The Indian ran for dear life, followed by the wild man, but after pursuing him for three or four hundred yards the giant gave up the chase. Old village Indians, who called upon Peter to hear of his second encounter, nodded their heads sagely, shrugged their shoulders, and for some reason not quite clear, seemed not to wish the story to gain further publicity. On the afternoon of the same day another Indian by the name of Paul was chased from the creek, where he was fishing for salmon, by the same individual. Paul was in a state of terror, for unlike Peter he had no gun. A short distance from his shack the giant suddenly quit and walked into the bush. Paul, exhausted from running, fell in the snow and had to be carried home by his mother and others of the family. "The first and second time." went on Peter, "I was all alone when I met this strange mountain creature. Then, early in the spring of the following year, another man and myself were bear hunting near the place where I first met him. On this occasion we ran into two of these giants. They were sitting on the ground. At first we thought they were old tree stumps, but when we were within fifty feet or so, they suddenly stood up and we came to an immediate stop. Both were nude. We were close enough to know that they were man and woman. The woman was the smaller of the two, but neither of them as big or fierce-looking as the giant that chased me. We ran home, but they did not follow us. The Indian house that was wrecked by Peter's giant.  One morning, some few weeks after this, Peter and his wife were fishing in a canoe on the Harrison River, near Harrison Bay. Paddling round a neck of land they saw, on the beach within a hundred feet of them, the giant Peter had met the previous year. "We stood for a long time looking at him." said the Indian, "but he took no notice of us — that was the last time," concluded Peter, "I saw him." Peter remarked that his father and numbers of old Indians knew that wild men lived in caves in the mountains — had often seen them. He wished to make it clear that these creatures were in no way related to the Indian. He believes there are a few of them living at present in the mountains near Agassiz.


Charley Victor's Story


Charley Victor belongs to the Skwah Reserve near Chilliwack. In his younger days he was known as one of the best hunters in the province and had many thrilling adventures in his time. Did he know anything about the hairy ape-like men who were supposed to inhabit the distant mountains? Charley smiled, and answered that he had had a slight acquaintance with them. He had been in what he thought was one of their houses. "And that is not all," said he. "I met and spoke to one of their women, and I shot." But let Charley tell the story himself. "The strange people, of whom there are but few now — rarely seen and seldom met — " said the old hunter, "are known by the name of Sasquatch, or, 'the hairy mountain men'. "The first time I came to know about these people," continued the old man, "I did not see anybody. Three young men and myself were picking salmonberries on a rocky mountain slope some five or six miles from the old town of Yale. In our search for berries we suddenly stumbled upon a large opening in the side of the mountain. This discovery greatly surprised all of us, for we knew every foot of the mountain, and never knew nor heard there was a cave in the vicinity. "Outside the mouth of the cave there was an enormous boulder. We peered into the cavity but couldn't see anything.  "We gathered some pitchwood, lighted it and began to explore. But before we got very far from the entrance of the cave, we came upon a sort of stone house or enclosure: it was a crude affair. We couldn't make a thorough examination, for our pitchwood kept going out. We left, intending to return in a couple of days and go on exploring. Old Indians, to whom we told the story of our discovery, warned us not to venture near the cave again, as it was surely occupied by the Sasquatch. That was the first time I heard about the hairy men that inhabit the mountains. We, however, disregarded the advice of the old men and sneaked off to explore the cave, but to our great disappointment found the boulder rolled back into its mouth and fitting it so nicely that you might suppose it had been made for that purpose." Charley intimated that he hoped to have enough money some day to buy sufficient dynamite to blow open the cave of the Sasquatch, and see how far it extends through the mountain. The Indian then took up the thread of his story and told of his first meeting with one of these men. A number of other Indians and himself were bathing in a small lake near Yale. He was dressing, when suddenly out from behind a rock, only a few feet away, stepped a nude hairy man. "Oh! he was a big, big man!" continued the old hunter. "He looked at me for a moment, his eyes were so kind-looking that I was about to speak to him, when he turned about and walked into the forest." At the same place two weeks later, Charley, together with several of his companions saw the giant, but this time he ran toward the mountain. This was twenty years after the discovery of the cave.


Charley Shoots a Sasquatch Boy


I don't know if I should tell you or not about the awful experience I had with these wicked people about fifteen years ago in the mountains near Hazie." The old man rubbed his knee, and said he disliked recalling that disagreeable meeting — it was a tragedy from which he had not yet fully recovered. Old Charley, who says he talked to a Sasquatch (giant) woman and wounded one of their boys. "I was hunting in the mountains near Hatzie." he resumed. "I had my dog with me. I came out on a plateau where there were several big cedar trees. The dog stood before one of the trees and began to growl and bark at it. On looking up to see what excited him, I noticed a large hole in the tree seven feet from the ground. The dog pawed and leaped upon the trunk, and looked at me to raise him up, which I did, and he went into the hole. The next moment a muffled cry came from the hole. I said to myself: 'The dog is tearing into a bear.' and with my rifle ready, I urged the dog to drive him out, and out came something I took for a bear. I shoot and it fell with a thud to the ground. 'Murder! Oh my!' I spoke to myself in surprise and alarm, for the thing I had shot looked to me like a white boy. He was nude. He was about twelve or fourteen years of age." In his description of the boy, Charley said that his hair was black and woolly.  Wounded and bleeding, the poor fellow sprawled upon the ground, but when I drew close to examine the extent of his injury, he let out a wild yell, or rather a call as if he were appealing for help. From across the mountain a long way off rolled a booming voice. Near and more near came the voice and every now and again the boy would return an answer as if directing the owner of the voice. Less than a half-hour, out from the depths of the forest came the strangest and wildest creature one could possibly see. "I raised my rifle, not to shoot, but in case I would have to defend myself. The hairy creature, for that was what it was, walked toward me without the slightest fear. The wild person was a woman. Her face was almost Negro black and her long straight hair fell to her waist. In height she would be about six feet, but her chest and shoulders were well above the average in breadth." Charley remarked that he had met several wild people in his time, but had never seen anyone half so savage in appearance as this woman. The old brave confessed he was really afraid of her. "In my time," said the old man, "and this is no boast, I have in more than one emergency strangled bear with my hands, but I'm sure if that wild woman laid hands on me, she'd break every bone in my body. "She cast a hasty glance at the boy. Her face took on a demoniacal expression when she saw he was bleeding. She turned upon me savagely, and in the Douglas tongue said: "You have shot my friend. "I explained in the same language — for I'm part Douglas myself — that I had mistaken the boy for a bear and that I was sorry. She did not reply. but began a sort of wild frisk or dance around the boy, chanting in a loud voice for a minute or two, and, as if in answer to her, from the distant woods came the same sort of chanting troll. In her hand she carried something like a snake, about six feet in length, but thinking over the matter since, I believe it was the intestine of some animal. But whatever it was, she constantly struck the ground with it. She picked up the boy with one hairy hand, with as much ease as if he had been a wax doll." At this point of the story, Charley began to make pictures in the sand with his maple stick, and paused or reflected so long that we thought he had come to the end of his narrative, when he suddenly looked up, and said with a grin: "Perhaps I better tell you the rest of it, although I know you'll not believe it. There was challenge of defiance in her black eyes and dark looks," went on Charley, "as she faced and spoke to me a second time and the dreadful words she used set me shaking." "You remember them?" I asked. "Remember them," he repeated, "they still ring round my old ears like the echo of a thunder-storm. She pointed the snake-like thing at me and said:


"Siwash, you'll never kill another bear." 


The old hunter's eyes moistened when he admitted that he had not shot a bear or anything else since that fatal day.  "Her words, expression, and the savage avenging glint in her dark, fiery eyes filled me with fear," confessed the Indian, "and I felt so exhausted from her unwavering gaze that I was no longer able to keep her covered with my rifle. I let it drop." Charley has been paralyzed for the last eight years, and he is inclined to think that the words of the wild woman had something to do with it. The old man told how his "brave dog that never turned from any bear nor cougar," lay whimpering and shivering at his feet while the Sasquatch woman was speaking, "just," said Charley, "as if he understood the meaning of her words." The old man said that she spoke the words "Yahoo, yahoo" frequently in a loud voice, and always received a similar reply from the mountain.


The old hunter felt sure that the woman Indian looked somewhat like the wild man he had seen at Yale many years before, although the woman was the darker of the two. He did not think the boy belonged to the Sasquatch people, "because he was white and she called him her friend," reasoned Charley. "They must have stolen him or run across him in some other way," he added. "Indians," said Charley, "have always known that wild men lived in the distant mountains, within sixty and one hundred miles east of Vancouver, and of course they may live in other places throughout the province, but I have never heard of it. It is my own opinion since I met that wild woman fifteen years ago that because she spoke the Douglas tongue these creatures must be related to the Indian."


The Wild Man at Agassiz


At Agasiz, near the close of September, 1927, Indian hop-pickers were having their annual picnic. A few of the younger people volunteered to pick a mess of berries on a wooded hillside, a short way from the picnic grounds. They had only started to pick, when out of the bush stepped a naked hairy giant. He was first noticed by a girl of the party, who was so badly frightened that she fell unconscious to the ground. The girl's sudden collapse was seen by an Indian named Point, of Vancouver, and as he ran to her assistance, was astonished to see a giant a few feet away, who continued to walk with an easy gait across the wooded slope in the direction of the Canadian Pacific railway tracks.


Since the foregoing paragraph was written, Mr. Point, replying to an enquiry, has kindly forwarded the following letter to the writer, in which he tells of his experience with the hairy giant: "Dear Sir: I have your letter asking is it true or not that I saw a hairy giant-man at Agassiz last September, while picking hops there. It is true and the facts are as follows: This happened at the close of September (1921) when we were having a feast. Adaline August and myself walked to her father's orchard, which is about four miles from the hop fields. We were walking on the railroad track and within a short distance of the orchard, when the girl noticed something walking along the track coming toward us. I looked up but paid no attention to it, as I thought it was some person on his way to Agassiz. But as he came closer we noticed that his appearance was very odd, and on coming still closer we stood still and were astonished — seeing that the creature was naked and covered with hair like an animal. We were almost paralyzed from fear. I picked up two stones with which I intended to hit him if he attempted to molest us, but within fifty feet or so he stood up and looked at us. "He was twice as big as the average man, with hands so long that they almost touched the ground. It seemed to me that his eyes were very large and the lower part of his nose was wide and spread over the greater part of his face, which gave the creature such a frightful appearance that I ran away as fast as I could. After a minute or two I looked back and saw that he resumed his journey. The girl had fled before I left, and she ran so fast that I did not overtake her until I was close to Agassiz, where we told the story of our adventure to the Indians who were still enjoying themselves. Old Indians who were present said: the wild man was no doubt a "Sasquatch," a tribe of hairy people whom they claim have always lived in the mountains — in tunnels and caves." Do hairy giants inhabit the mountain solitudes of British Columbia? Many Indians, besides those quoted, are sincerely convinced that the "Sasquatch," a few of them at least, still live in the little-known interior of the province."


Gray's Harbor Sighting August 7, 1969 In Spotlight At Close Range Deputy Gives Detailed Description of Sasquatch (July 26, 1969)


A statement issued last week by the sheriff of Gray's Harbor County, Washington, that one of is deputies had admitted seeing a female bear, not a sasquatch, is completely contradicted by this interview with the deputy recorded by John Green last Thursday. Mr. Green interviewed the deputy in company with two physical anthropologists from the University of Washington.

Q. To begin with, could we get your name on the tape? A. My name is Verlin Herrington.

Q. Where do you live? A. I live at Copalis Beach, Washington. 

Q. How old are you? A. Thirty years old. 

Q. What is your occupation? A. I am a Deputy Sheriff for Gray's Harbor County. 

Q. Now, the incident we've been discussing, could you give us the date when that took place? A. Yes, It was July 26, it was on a Sunday.

Q. And the year? A. 1969. 

Q. And what time? A. It was 2:35 a.m. 

Q. What were you doing at that time? A. I had been on an incident at Humptulips and I was en route by way of Deekay Road, by Grass Creek Road, to the beach and into my residence.

Q. You were working at that time? A. Right ! 

Q. What was it that happened while you were making that trip? A. As I was going down Deekay Road I rounded a corner, and my first impression was of a large bear standing in the middle of the road. I either had to stop for the bear or hit him so I decided to stop, put on the brakes, came to a screeching halt, and coasted up the slight grade as far as I could without startling the animal as I was looking at it as I was going towards it. This animal in my opinion was not a bear, because you could see by the way it was standing that it had no snout, it had a face on it. Its eyes reflected, and when I came to a complete stop I could see in the headlights of my car that it had feet on it instead of paws, and it had breasts. When I centered my spotlight on the patrol car on it, it walked to the edge of the road, it didn't fall down on all fours like a bear would, it walked upright as a person would. It walked to the edge of the roadway and stopped; turned, still looking at me. I re-adjusted the spotlight on my car so I could look at it better. Its feet had hair down to the soles but you could see tile outline of the foot, it did have toes. Its hand was in a position where it was spread out, and it did have fingers. After I'd re-adjusted the spotlight, I rolled tile window down, pulled my revolver and crawled out of the door. I aimed my revolver at it and as I cocked the hammer on it the animal went into the brush. I got back in my car and drove off. Reported the next morning back to the scene and went through the area, found where the animal had gone into the bush and where it had come back out on to the roadway.

Q. Did you find any tracks at all? A. Yes, I found one indention in the ground. I did take a photograph of it, it wasn't such a print that you could pour a cast of.

Q. How big was it? A. I measured the track, it was 18 1/2 inches. The animal itself was around seven to seven and a half feet tall, weighing approximately 300 to 325 pounds.

Q. How far away were you when you were looking at it? A. 75 to 80 feet. Q. How long would you say you were able to observe it before it left the road? A. Approximately a minute or a minute and a quarter, maybe a minute and a half. This was from the time that I came to a complete stop. I was observing it as I coasted towards it. So maybe overall - 2 minutes. Q. And in that time it was standing erect on its hind legs? A. Yes it was. As it went off into the brush it was still on its hind legs.

Q. Where it went into the brush, that's down quite' a steep little bank isn't it? A. Yes it is. 

Q. And could you see that it remained erect as it went down the bank? A. Until it went out of the spotlight, yes. 

Q. Had it started to descend the bank in the spotlight or was it gone from the spotlight? A. It went down the bank and approximately half way down it went out of the spotlight, still in an erect position. Q. Just to sort of go over it from top to bottom - can you tell us anything about the shape of tile head? For instance, your first impression was a bear. Did it have a snout? A. No it didn't have a snout. I couldn't say that it has a nose like a person would have. I believe that there was no hair on its face. It had a dark leathery look.

Q. Did you get any impression of the length of hair on the head or on the rest of it? A. I would say about 3 to 4 inches on the head.

Q. It didn't have long hanging hair at all? A. Longer on the head than on the body, yes. Q. What sort of a neck did it have? A. No neck. 

Q. You mentioned, I think, that it had breasts.  A. Yes.

Q. Where on the body were they located? A. Like a human person's. They were also covered with hair except for the nipples and they were skin.

Q. Did you mention the color of the hair? A. No, I didn't. It was brownish black, dark colored. 

Q. You say you saw a hand with the fingers extended. A. Yes. 

Q. Could you tell how long the arms were? A. I would have to guess at how long they were. The arm that I was looking at was in a bent position like you catch someone startled.

Q. You couldn't at anytime see how far down the body the arm would come? A. No 

Q. Comparing it to a human, would you say that it had long legs or short legs? A. Long legs I would say long muscular legs.

Q. Did it take long strides? A. No, it seemed like it took small steps as it walked. It was watching me as it walked to the edge of the road. They would be large steps for a normal human but for this animal they were short steps. About three steps from the center of the road to the edge:

Q. Did you notice any difference in the way it walked and the way a human would walk? A. Same type of position and same type of walk as a human being.

Q. Any other details that you can recall that you noticed about it? A. Really, that pretty well covers it. 

Q. You didn't see the teeth I guess? A. No. 

Q. Did it taper at the waist? Did it have h narrow waist? A. It was a big body - a big stout body - that's the best I remember it was - It could have been thinner at the waist - I don't remember

Q. It was pretty heavily built?  A. Yes.


Nanoose Bay BC Canada 1982


What follows is an incident that occurred to myself and about twenty other male campers when we were at summer camp around the summer of '82 or '83. Although the incident doesn't necessarily involve the sighting of a Sasquatch, I've come to feel that this strange occurrence may have been the result of one, or possibly more, Sasquatch creatures protecting their territory. When I was about 14 or 15 years old, I used to attend Camp Morecroft every summer during the break in the school year. Camp Morecroft was (and I think still is) located near Nanoose Bay on Vancouver Island in British Columbia. Part of our summer camp itinerary was to canoe out towards a small island near the camp, explore the island, and stay overnight. This was a short canoe trip of about 30 minutes and the island was deserted. Two or three canoe-loads of campers and our camp leaders embarked for the island (this island is called Gerald Island) and we spent the majority of the day walking around its perimeter. The length of the island is about one or two miles and the coastline varied between a sandy/pebbly beach and areas of broken rock with small cliffs. The interior of the island was mainly trees, smooth rocky hills, and trails. I remember that their was no fresh water on Gerald Island and we had to bring our own water in large plastic bottles along with food for our trip. Later in the evening, us campers decided to sleep on the beach, while our camp leaders continued to sit around the campfire late into the night. I remember being able to see the light from the main campfire further along the shore. It so happened that me and a friend (for the life of me, I can't remember who this was) decided to sleep a few yards away from the main group and found our own area to sleep further down the beach. It was quite dark out (possibly 10:30 or later) and this is when the strange occurrences began. One of the boys in the other group yelled over to us to quit throwing rocks. We responded with surprise and said that we didn't throw anything at them. Once again, they got pretty angry because another bunch of rocks was thrown. At about this time, me and my friend thought we saw a figure running among the tree-line towards the other group of campers. To the best of my recollection, I can't recall any real description of this fleeting figure. I seem to recall the shape as human-like and it gave me the impression as being male. Anyway, we quickly decided it was time to rejoin the group! As we bedded down with the other campers, the rocks continued to bombard the group. I remember lying against a piece of driftwood, using it as a shield from the flying rocks. The rocks were being thrown hard, in rapid succession, and with a fair degree of precision. I remember the noise from them ricocheting off the driftwood. I doubt very much that our camp counselors would have been behind this assault. The camp was a Christian-based camp and a number of the campers were crying from fright. I myself remember having to go to the bathroom, but I was too scared to leave the safety of my driftwood shield. The rocks continued to fly throughout the night. I remember the sky was beginning to lighten and the rocks were still coming. Mercifully the morning came and the onslaught ended. I recently talked with one of the campers who was with me on the island that night. He remembers the incident and doesn't like to talk about it. He gave me a deep, knowing look when I mentioned it to him.


Kitwancool, British Columbia Canada.  1983 or 84 It was actually 4 miles before you get to the turn off. On your way there traveling from Kitwanga you will see the remains of the farm on the left hand side of the highway. The creek has long since dried up and the buildings have decayed but the remains are still there. ok. The year was 1983 or 84 - not sure on that. But we were kids. I am 31 now. We were playing in the yard there was me my 2 brothers (1 since passed) my cousins and my dad and grandma. Us kids were playing when my brother said, "What the heck is that?" We all stopped immediately to see a creature, and I say creature cause I know it was not a bear standing beside our smokehouse, which was about 50 to 100 yards from us. It was summertime, around supper, so it was still quite light out. This creature stood at least 7 or more feet tall because the smoke house door is 6 feet itself. The creature never made a sound and it never moved. It was trying to hide itself behind a giant cottonwood, but there was no way of hiding his girth. It must have stood there watching us for at least 15 minutes before my dad told us to come inside the house. My grandmother said it was Bigfoot as if it was no big deal. I know what I saw and it was no bear.


Courtney Krumm  Sunday, March 10, 2002 10:39 PM Northern British Columbia

These stories uploaded with permission from investigator "Brian", April 23, 2001 - Bobbie Short 


In this article I will only cover our own area. For obvious reasons the names of witnesses and some locations cannot be given. Also the sightings will be given in the order that they were received in the late 1960's by a veterinarian named Dr. Proctor who opened a clinic on the 4600 block on Lakelse Ave., just east of the Bank of Montreal. In the front window there was a pair of large plaster cast footprints. When he was asked for the reason of the display of these footprints, the reply was that he was very interested in this creature. The sight of these big footprints may bring in more information and it did.


Sighting # 1 


In 1974 a friend and I applied for two expired gold placer leases on Lorne Creek, 30 miles east of Terrace, British Columbia, on the railroad side of the river. The boat used to cross the river was tied up at Jim's place on the highway side of the river. Since there were grizzly bear in the area we carried rifles. In shooting the breeze one evening, we asked Jim what kind of wildlife was in the area. Of course there was Moose, but recently he had seen something different. While doing some work there he spotted a moving patch of brown a short distance away. Curious as to what it may be, he sneaked closer. It appeared to be a brown-colored bear that had its back towards him and was standing up on its hind legs eating Saskatoon berries, however, it was using its front paws like hands. The last cover was 50 feet from this creature and this was as close as he could get. From this point he saw that the paws were hands and this was not a bear, but some kind of hair covered human like creature a little over 6 feet tall. Also it had a very strong odor that reminded him of a camel smell when he once worked in a circus. After about 10 minutes the creature sensed that something was near it and turned sideways and spotted Jim who then saw it was a female as it had breasts. The creature then just trotted off.


It was then Jim's wife spoke up. The previous summer about the same time of the year she was home alone. Suddenly the two tied up watchdogs raised an awful commotion, more so than if a bear was around. Stepping outside she saw through the trees about 100 yards away skirting the yard a large black bear walking on its hind legs. She knew a bear didn't walk on its hind legs. This couple was told of Dr. Proctor's interest and if they would be willing to grant him an interview if he came out. They agreed and he was notified. Later on down the street I asked him how he made out. His reply was that it certainly appeared that this is what they saw.


Sighting # 2 


 This also occurred in 1974. At that time the new highway bridges into Terrace had reached a point in construction where it was safe for the public to inspect them after working hours. Taking advantage of this, Dick and a friend decided to cross to Ferry Island from the Terrace side and explore it. On the riverbank they found fresh large footprints. They went back and picked up some plaster of paris and a camera. After the casts were made a through search was made for the creature but it was not seen. They kept their find a secret until they were sure it was no longer around. It is quite possible this creature was the one that was seen at Lorne Creek.


Sighting # 3 


This took place near the end of January at one of our local landfills. At about 2:00 AM a worker returned to the landfill to pick up a set of keys that had been left in a piece of equipment. As he was walking past the area where the last dumping was, he saw a figure crouching amongst the garbage. He called out with a "hello there, what are you doing in the dump at this time of the night." The figure stands up and this worker who was about 100 feet away was amazed at it's huge height and size. It stood at over 10 feet tall. The creature turned and looked at the worker, then just walked out to the bush at the rear of the landfill, looking back several times to see if it was being followed. When it was a safe distance away the worker went to the spot where it was first seen. The footprints were 5 feet apart, further than the worker could spread his legs. Also it walked through 2 feet of snow as easily as a human could walk through ankle deep snow. It was learned later that 2 days after this sighting, a similar sighting, maybe of the same creature was made at Usk about 12 miles east of Terrace.


Sighting # 4 


This event took place around 1950. Two logger brothers set up a bush sawmill on the Babine Lake road just out of Smithers. The staff and workers built cabins to be near the mill. One Sunday having nothing else to do, the younger brother decided to do a little exploring in the woods. Coming across a game trail, he decided to follow it. On the trail were giant footprints that looked like those made by a large grizzly bear, but they had no claw marks on their ends. Also the steps were 5 feet apart and still 4 feet apart even when going up a steep hill. The logger was 6 foot, 2 inches tall and could barely match the stride by stretching his legs to the limit. Even when going up the hill his steps were only half as long. While following the tracks he noticed the trail was littered by a lot of fresh-stripped twigs. Looking up he saw all the alder trees up to 20 feet on both sides of the trail had all of their upper branches stripped bare. The taller 20-foot trees had 4-inch trunks near the ground. It was very evident that this creature was big and strong enough to bend over these trees to get at the tender tips leaves and buds on the top branches. The twigs that broke off were spit out like humans do with fruit or berry stones. When the logger tired to bend these trees he could hardly move them.  Sasquatch researchers have long speculated what these creatures ate, and especially during the wintertime in the woods. So far two things were mentioned, Saskatoon berries and alder buds and shoots.


Sighting # 5 


This took place around 1980. Two men were driving to Kitimat one summer morning. Coming down the airport hill they could see a ground fog over the William Creek flats. This was a 2-mile straight stretch of highway that was built over a swampy area that was part of the north end of Lakelse Lake. The grade or fill here varied between 5 to 6 feet high. As the car came around a slight bend at the bottom of the hill they could see arms waving in the fog ahead of them. Thinking that someone had gone off the road they prepared to stop. Since it was foggy the driver had to get over the white line and right on the shoulder. When the vehicle was still several car lengths away from the figure, the passenger (who told me this story) saw the creature was not human. It was a very tall hair covered human like creature that was standing in the water at the foot of the grade and was facing the highway. When the car came to a stop they were alongside the creature. The creature's head was level with the occupants in the car and about 5 feet away from the passenger. After a brief moment the creature's eyes and mouth opened wide in terror. The head was thrown back and its arms crossed over the front of its head as to be warding off a blow from a club. It then turned around and dashed into the swamp, going at times through waist deep holes of water until lost in the fog and leaving two stunned men in the car.  While mulling over this story I measured the eye level height off the road in a similar type of car and it was 4 feet. Since the grade shoulder would have sloped a bit it would have been about 5 feet above the water. The creature was standing in water halfway to its knees. Adding up each foot of height on my fingers took all ten of them. This was followed up by another visit where two questions were asked. The first was if the creatures face was relatively free of hair as we see on the T.V. shows of the chimps and apes. The reply was that the face was covered with hair much the same as a full beard would be on a man. The next question was, "did you see the dished face of a chimp or ape or was it more human like?" The answer was that I saw a human face. It definitely was not the face of a chimp or ape. What apparently had happed here was the Sasquatch was feeding on the brush on the road grade as it was standing in the water. The movement of the arms through the fog was the creature reaching out and pulling the bushes towards him. Like most wild creatures it did not pay much attention to the traffic as they went by at highway speed. However, if you slow down much or stop, then they are gone. You can imagine the creatures surprise when this large object suddenly stopped in front of it.


Sighting # 6 


This sighting was from a lady now living in terrace, B.C. in 1985, she was living in the Queen Charlotte Islands in a cabin by the Honna River. One afternoon an acquaintance stopped by to tell her of a strange event he had just witnessed. He had been fly fishing further along the river when a very tame deer came out of the woods near him to drink from the river. He stopped his casting to admire the deer. Suddenly a rock flew out from the trees, striking the deer and knocking it down. This was immediately followed by a very tall hair covered human like creature who threw the deer over its shoulder and dashed back into the woods. Of course this took the pleasure out of further fishing and he didn't want to stick around with the rock-chucking ape in the vicinity. This is the first that I heard of the Sasquatch being on these islands. According to this lady, the local native people speak quite openly about them. Now if anyone is curious whether this deer was roasted, just read on.


Sighting # 7 


This took place in 1967. Fred arrived in Canada in 1960 along with a flood of German immigrants. In 1967 he was in the Houston area where he had joined an outdoor club. In the fall Fred went hunting because it was a man think to do. This is an urge that harkens back to a dim and distant past where humans had to hunt in order to survive. A favorite place to hunt was on a prospector trail that ran up a mountain in the direction of Kemano in the Bower Lake area. This weekend Fred was only accompanied by a medium sized dog as he was after a young Moose that he could drag back down the trail himself. Halfway up the mountain he ran into a fresh fall of snow a foot deep. Suddenly he was hit with a very strong pungent odor similar to a large decaying carcass. He was up here the weekend before and there was nothing like that here. When he tried to go on, the dog laid down on its belly blocking his way. When he tried to go around the dog, it crawled forward continuing to block his way. Fred then climbed up on top of a rock that was beside the trail but he could see nothing ahead. However, he decided to heed the dogs warning and headed back down the mountain much to the dogs relief. Fred had moved to Terrace in 1974. During that summer he visited another German immigrant family with 8 children who were living in an acreage community of Rosswood about 30 miles north of Terrace. There was a houseful of guests that day and the hosts had a strange story to tell. The previous winter had a very heavy snowfall. In March the snow was still 4 feet deep but hard enough to walk on. The snow had melted away from around the smaller jack pine trees to leaving them sitting in holes in the snow. During the Easter school holidays the children saw two hair-covered human like creatures about 100 yards behind the house. One was an adult and the other a youngster about half as tall. It was presumed that the larger one was the mother but it kept its back to the whole family who were watching from the back of the house. These two figures were going from one small jack pine to another, picking and eating the needle tips of the branches. Here we have another item on their menu. Two days later on the afternoon a large passenger airplane without wings, tail or engines and making no sound, flew very low and slow, following the path that these creatures had taken. In my correspondence with UFO*BC they had mentioned having a number of reports from people who had seen a Sasquatch and a UFO in the same area around the same time. They were wondering if there as some kind of connection between them. It is my feeling that the aliens are every bit as curious about these creatures as we are. This covers the verbal stories collected so far. The remaining printed stories will be photo copied. A local moose hunter once mentioned that he could easily have shot a Sasquatch. However, it looked so like a human that he didn't dare. Although it would have been a real boon to science, he was concerned that he could be charged with manslaughter if it would be classed as a sub-human by these scientists. This question was put to the homicide department of the local R.C.M.P. The reply was that they couldn't answer this question and referred me to the crown prosecutor. His statement was the same as the police, so the next visit was to the game warden. According to him the Sasquatch was not a game animal, so it has nothing to do with his department. If one was shot and declared a sub-human, then it would be up to the police and courts to deal with it. It seems here that the safest thing to do would be to capture one alive. If it turns out to be some form of human, then it could always be turned loose. However, if it realizes that it can just laze around and still be fed, it may not want to leave. If food is put out for a homeless dog or cat, it sticks around. The next question would be, where does the Sasquatch fit in to the scheme of things? It appears this was one of nature's experiments in evolution that got stuck in a rut. Anyone that listens to the news and watches the T.V. educational channels will be aware the oldest human bones found go back almost 6 million years. Here we have an upright walking primate that was very good at climbing trees. However, its brain was the same size as the primates that were still walking on their hands as the chimpanzee does today. The chimp branch had forked sometime earlier with each branch then going its own way. With the upright walking primates the hands were now free for other tasks and the brain began to increase in size to accommodate this dexterity. As these hands were used more and became more skillful, the greater the brain increased in size until two distinct species had developed. Somewhere near the beginning of this separation a third branch had spouted between these two species. This primate also walked upright but it's brain remained chimp size. Here we have half of each main branch, with the body following the upright walking side, and the brain following the side where the primates still walked on their hands, like the chimps do today. However, it must have had something going for it, for this species also survived along with the other primates including the ones that became humans. The Sasquatch is comparable in size and weight to the gorilla and probably has the same size of brain. In all of nature's evolution only the human primates has made it into the Stone Age and beyond. Humans were the only creatures that made tools and weapons. We are the only ones that used fire for warmth and cooking. The other primates do not even have the intelligence of how to keep a fire going. Humans were the only creature to have a full and written language, and the only creatures that built permanent shelters. The Sasquatch had none of these and probably didn't even need them. Its heavy fur coat was adequate for all weather. Like our moose it just spent its days roaming the wilderness in search of food. There is no evidence that it even had its own territory as many animals do. It just followed its food supply. When needing to rest any comfortable place would do. A permanent bed was a disadvantage, as it would soon have been heavily infested with fleas, lice, mites and tics. As its diet was mostly vegetation it did not have to complete with the more intelligent human primates for the available food supply. The Sasquatch was for the most part a solitary creature that just came together with a female to mate like much of our wildlife. Most of the sightings are of a single creature. It was up to the female to raise the offspring alone. If like humans, it would take a good many years to raise a youngster to where it could look after itself. This would mean a mother could only raise 2 or 3 children in its lifetime, which would barely sustain their numbers. This would explain the scarcity of these creatures. For those who have watched the wildlife documentaries on the T.V. educational channels will be struck by the almost human behavior of the chimpanzee. They tend to remind us of our children quarreling. For a long time scientists had thought that the dividing line between human and other creatures was in the use of tools. However, many wildlife pictures do show that the chimps, other animals and even birds will use sticks and rocks as tools in order to obtain food. With our recent rapid advancement of our genetic research scientists are now saying that chimpanzees, depending on species, have from 98 to 99.3 per cent of the genes of a human. In fact they are more closely related to humans than they are to the other large apes. Because of this some scientists have started a movement to declare the chimp a sub human with all the protection humans have. The Sasquatch with its upright walking and very human face could fit in between humans and the chimps. Does this mean the Sasquatch is the missing link ? Not likely as all 3 species evolved from an earlier life form around the same time. After all, in the scientific category humans are classified as a primate or more crudely an ape. Keep this in mind the next time you call someone a big or stupid ape.


Sighting # 8 


This report was received after my report had been completed and photocopies made. In the summer of 1988 Dan and his wife visited a friend on Old Lakelse Lake Road past Jackpine Flats. After a while Dan had to stretch his legs and decided to look at his friend's garden, which was a little distance behind the house. Midway on the way back on his left was a dense grove of low leaf trees. Suddenly there was movement there and Dan thought he saw what looked like a very large rear end of a moose taking off. Dan, an avid hunter couldn't believe that a moose could be that high. At that moment the owner let out his two small housedogs. Dan hadn't smelled anything but apparently the dogs did. They ran yapping into the dense grove of trees. A few seconds later they came yapping back with high-pitched yelps right up to the house and scratches madly at the door to get back into the house. The owner came out and asked Dan what made the dogs act so strangely. Dan said he didn't know but would look around. He couldn't find any moose tracks in the grove of trees. There were a number of large faint impressions in the moss that were still rebounding out. Dan was familiar with the stories of the Sasquatch and suspected that this is what he saw. However, since there was no firm evidence to back him up, he decided to keep quiet rather than face teasing or ridicule. However, this event shows that although the Sasquatch will usually avoid humans, they can occasionally still stumble into their yards. In this area a story of bear and moose in your yard is believable but a Sasquatch still isn't. It should also be noted in this report and the other information included, the strange reaction of the dogs. These dogs will not hesitate to go after a full-grown grizzly, but yet run and hide from a Sasquatch. Do they instinctively know something that we don't?


Sighting # 9 


This took place in 1991 during late July or early August. Dan and his wife were returning to B.C. from a visit to Ontario. Midnight found them near the Ontario-Manitoba border close to Westhawk Lake. Suddenly ahead of them in the car headlights they saw a large hair covered human like creature running hard across the highway. Dan remembers that the hair on the top of the creature's head was standing upright like a comb or brush. His wife noticed that steam was rising from its shoulder. It was obvious that the creature was in a panic situation and was running from something. Later they heard that others had seen it and it made the news on the local radio stations and the newspapers. From the above report is proof that the Sasquatch is not confined to the Rockies but can be anywhere, even on the prairies.  My thanks goes out to a kind gentleman from my area for his report and the good folks who came forward to tell their stories.


Sooke, British Columbia


Rob Alley from Ketchikan Alaska wrote: "Another from my file, 1973 winter: Two men from Victoria, on Vancouver Island, British Columbia was hiking in fresh snow above Sooke, up the Butler Brother's logging road found fresh 17 inch tracks, made cast. Returning minutes later, found tracks on top of theirs. (I saw the cast, looked like Patterson-Gimlin track but only the big toe registering.)"


Paradise & Sterling City, California


Mr. and Mrs. Robert L Behme, of Magalia, California, made a curious night meeting: " - on April 16, 1969 at approximately midnight, we were in the car on the road between Paradise and Sterling City. The surrounding area very wooded, well sprinkled and crossed by deep canyons. As we started a long curve, our headlights lit what seemed to be a man in a fur, crossing the road. During one moment we had a front view when it turned to the car, then it was inserted in the darkness. Our impression that it was high of more than 6 feet [1,80 m] completely was covered with short black hairs, which seemed to be marked either of white spots or of mud. Its face was white although the details appeared confused. The eyes did not shine in the night-light, as is the case of the eyes of an animal. The head was small and finished at a peak at the top. It was heavily built with particularly heavy legs."


Credit © Peter Byrne 1975  Courtesy Western Bigfoot Society Fort Bragg/Mendocino County, California Fort Bragg/Mendocino County , California - 1977... Woodlands along Little Lake Road


Submitted:  Thursday, December 10, 1998 10:05 AM


I was squatting in the woods out Little Lake Road of Mendocino, California. I've spent most of my life in the woods of California or Maine, even had resident pet black bears that would come to the open dump at the back of the property. One night, I'm laying in my tent...It was late (2 am) and I woke up and heard something through the woods about fifty yards away is my guess. There was stomping and crashing of smaller trees started going on.   It was loud.  I was surprised at first and a little afraid because I was squatting illegally on state property. With my familiarity of the noises of the night in the woods, I listened carefully to try to determine or identify what was making the noise. My first assessment was that it was bipedal...not a bear or a deer. Realizing this scared me the most.  Understanding the force necessary to cause the destructive sounds I was listening to scared me even further...I don't know if profanity is allowed or acceptable, but I was more effin afraid than I could ever remember, praying that what I was listening to wouldn't start moving towards my tent. The noise sounded like a two-legged monster crashing through the woods hastily as if trying to make quick time CRASH CRASH CRASH CRASH !!! It was then I realized that I heard a dog or maybe more than one dog barking in pursuit. Gratefully the noise was not coming towards me and I suspected that whatever was moving so quickly and violently through the woods was trying to elude the dog(s). I think this whole event lasted about 30 seconds and then the crashing stopped. It was then the next scariest thing happened.  The dog barked a few more times and then it made that sound dogs make when they are brutally injured.  After that...I did not hear a single damned thing except the fear white noise inside my head. You know I worked I worked as a split maker for a year on LP land in Mendocino County and as a timber operator for about five years east of the Fort Bragg and Mendocino area.   I worked alone very often.  I was surprised to read a post on this website wherein the person who wrote it also said they often felt (and somehow knew) they were not alone when in the woods.  I would turn off my chainsaw now and then and I could "feel" something watching me. The last strange thing I would share with you about the last 22 years of my life, 2 -12 miles East of Fort Bragg, California in the woods is the frequent discovery of disemboweled animals, simply that......disemboweled...the rest of the animal in tact. What an eclectic mix we are in the wonderful County of Mendocino. Please keep me as anonymous as possible and do not publish my telephone number...Thank you,  JS


Crescent City, California 


It was late August 1995. My wife and I went on what we thought would be our dream vacation. We flew into Portland, Oregon, and rented a car at the airport. Our plan was to sight see arouned Portland a few days before continuing with the rest of the vacation. Then we drove Hwy 99 west to Hwy 18 over to I-101 south we were going to take a few days to drive down to San Francisco. So far everything was going perfect. We put lots of miles behind us before stoping in Crescent City, California that night. We stayed in a hotel just across the street from the marina. We had dinner at the hotel restaurant while we talked about the day's adventures and what we were planning for tomorrow. Then we went back to the room to get some sleep before getting up early and starting on our way. I'm a truck driver by trade and I like to get started early before the mourning traffic starts. We jumped in the car and south on 101. It took only one minute and Mary was asleep but she told me to wake her if I saw something for her to look at. It wasn't too long after that when I spotted a beach with black sand so I pulled over and put the car in park and shut it off. I was going to wake Mary up and see if she wanted to take a walk on the beach. I just started to turn arouned when I saw something moving out the corner of my eye. I turned to see this big thing standing right in front of my car at first I thought it was a bear until our eyes met. I could'nt move or speak, we just locked eyes for what seemed to be forever. It stood about 6½ to 7 ft, dark brown matted hair, and was holding what looked to be sea weed which it used both hands to carry. It didn't seem startled in fact I felt it was looking at me with anger in its eyes. It let go a snort and a glob of snot hit the windshield right in front of my face. It then took 3 or 4 steps and completly crossed the highway while it was still looking at me. It was then when I heard the squeal of tires and the beeping of a horn. The thing disappeared into the woods and I knew I wasn't the only one to see it that day. I was back on the road in a flash not even going to ask the other driver if he or she was ok. About a mile down the road a 4 wheel drive pulled up behind me with flashers on so I pulled over to the side thinking I was getting a ticket. But it was the other driver I walked to his jeep and we started to talk about the event, then my wife started to get out of the car and I told him not to say anything. I just told her I was asking questions about places to see along the way. I never told anyone about that day which I still lose sleep over. And I wish I got that guy's name and number because now I would


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